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Subject: [OGD] "Bootleg" copies of botanical articles

............comments and opinions below, from li'l frog.

The simple-English version of this sign says that you may not copy
more than 10% of any single item. It then gives examples: a book, a
poem, a recipe, or even a newspaper article are all 'single items'.
(Can you imagine only having 10% of a recipe ??? ... fat lot of use
!!!). 10% of the whole item is the upper limit under the "Fair Use"
clause.

............... 10% of a cookbook is probably what is intended, not a single
recipe.  

There is no exception for educational use ... Paul's "giving copies to
students
as part of a class project or assignment" is expressedly forbidden by
the terms of the FTA ... it says so on the notice stuck on the top of
every copier in our school.

................I believe Paul said the instructor could make a copy for his
own use, but not distribute copies to his class.

Nowadays, if I wished to copy a 10 page article in a journal, I would
have to make 10 different trips to the library, not just one. And I'd
be breaking the law on the second &  subsequent trips.  Of course, I
wouldn't dream of doing anything so ridiculous as this, would I ?.

..................See above.  I believe the language and intent is 10% of
the publication, not each article.  If you are researching a single aspect
of a subject, you might only have to copy the relevant parts, and not the
entire article.

What you guys seem to be saying is that US copyright laws aren't
enforced in the USA, but citizens of other countries are expected to
obey them. Is that correct   ????

.................We really don't have a cop standing next to each copier or
scanner in the United States; and for academic purposes, it is usually easy
to get permission to copy an article in limited quantities.  Authors and
publishers like to have their works spoken of in front of students.

                                 li'l frog

Peter O'Byrne
Singapore

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