Looking through the most recent AQplus and the most recent Orchid Hybrid List is see there are 'groups'. I'm familiar with the V coerulea 'pink group' and 'blue group'. I had no idea more groups were in the offing. Gepetto group, indeed. Is the hybrid registry really going to pay attention to these groups? And now, according to the AOS webpage, Sophronitis is going into Cattleya and an x or times sign will preceed all nothogenera. I assume everyone will ignore these changes and they'll become irrelevant. Alex Maxiamano will be the only person who'll have to know them so he can put the synonyms into OW. I'm sorry. I'm really trying not to rant. But there are times when I really have to know the "right" name for an orchid and these fluctuations are driving me batty. Combined with non-registered hybrids (like Den. Emma White) its sapping all the fun out of being an insufferable know-it-all. We used to laugh and say that growing orchids and knowing their names was a sure fire way to stave off Alzheimer's, but I give up. I guess growing species is the easier road. But no... I take that back... What's the line from the old movie 'War Games'? The only winning move is not to play. So who has street cred? Will Soph become C? Will it stay that way? Will these 'groups' be something we need to be famiar with? (Dear God keep them away from the color forms of L purpurata! or is it Soph purpurata? or C purpurata...?) K Barrett N Calif, USA _________________________________________________________________ It’s a talkathon – but it’s not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk _______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [email protected] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com

