It's my understanding that most dances are held in non-public spaces, and
thus, not public gatherings. No?


On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 7:10 PM Stephen Moore via Organizers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Gads, worrying over dancing issues seems so long ago.
>
> Re: photographs. I edit a small town monthly newspaper/journal in western
> Massachusetts and so the laws around photography are pertinent.
>
> It’s pretty simple as far as what is legal- Photography of people,
> regardless of age, at a public gathering is permissible without permission.
>
> But as an ongoing event, you might wish to have a more considered
> approach, especially if someone has raised it within your dance community.
>
> And by example, a school classroom setting is not a public gathering.
> Common sense should prevail too.
>
> Stephen Moore
> Lenox Contra Dance
>
> On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Lisa Brown via Organizers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Also from our social contract:
>
> Children
> ● Children are welcome; however, those under 18 must come with an adult.
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:01 PM Jeff Kaufman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> How do you handle situations where someone is taking pictures of the
>> whole crowd if you have minors dancing?
>>
>> Do you not allow people under 18 to attend your dance without a
>> responsible adult?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:27 PM Lisa Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > We have a photography policy for minors and musicians. It's part of our
>> social contract.
>> >
>> > Photography, Videography, and Recording
>> > ● Permission of the responsible adult must be obtained before
>> publishing photos or videos of minor children.
>> > ● Permission of the performers should be obtained before making videos
>> or recordings.
>> >
>> > Lisa - Country Dancers of Rochester
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:28 PM Jeff Kaufman via Organizers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> BIDA has:
>> >>
>> >> "Photography: We don't have a photography policy, and it is common for
>> >> dancers to take pictures and post them on social media." --
>> >> https://www.bidadance.org/accessibility
>> >>
>> >> We talked a lot about ways in which we could potentially make the
>> >> dance better for people who don't want to be photographed or have
>> >> their pictures shared, but we ended up running into the same problems
>> >> Alan describes.
>> >>
>> >> If you have a place where people can trust that photos of them will
>> >> not appear on social media without them having the option to opt out,
>> >> then there are people who can come to your dance who couldn't
>> >> otherwise.  On the other hand, if you make some effort in this
>> >> direction but it still happens, which is what will happen unless you
>> >> have quite strict enforcement (especially with newcomers), you aren't
>> >> successfully making the dance more accessible and you are making the
>> >> dance less enjoyable for dancers who like sharing photos.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:19 PM Winston, Alan P. via Organizers
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > BACDS started trying to address this 10 or so years ago when we
>> wanted to put dance images in our publicity and privacy concerns meant that
>> we couldn't just use pictures.  It was very frustrating that while the
>> Board was  arguing about this stuff pictures of our dances from random
>> dancers were turning up on FB with no concern for privacy.  We eventually
>> concluded that if we were going to take publicity photos we'd let people
>> know beforehand, announce what dance in the evening we were going to do it
>> in, and let people sit down or leave the room for that one dance.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's okay when you're in charge of the photographer.
>> >> >
>> >> > It turns out to be effectively impossible to really prevent
>> photography without draconian measures like searches at the door and
>> confiscating all the cellphones.
>> >> >
>> >> > The people who don't want to be photographed range from people who
>> just have a preference to people for whom it's a matter of survival - those
>> who have fled violent abusers or who are, say, in witness protection.  You
>> cannot guarantee their safety and they need to understand that you can do
>> at most a best-effort attempt.
>> >> >
>> >> > Given that, it's useful to designate one line as photos okay and
>> have signage at the desk about not photographing outside of that line, but
>> people will still miss or forget the signage, so organizers have to keep an
>> eye on it and announcements have to be made, which may on any given night
>> be for the benefit of people who aren't there.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think we've tried giving people "no photos please" badges.
>> That might be effective in that people reviewing images before sharing them
>> will see a reminder in the picture, but it's not likely to be useful for
>> people who livestream a minute of your dance.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Alan
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > From: Karey Bacon via Organizers <[email protected]>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:16 PM
>> >> > To: [email protected] <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> > Subject: [Organizers] photography policy?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> > We in Philadelphia are using our Covid time to try to get some
>> policies done.
>> >> >
>> >> > One thing that has come up is a photography/video policy.  Some
>> dancers do not want to appear in any photos or videos.
>> >> >
>> >> > Some ideas we tossed about that have practical drawbacks:
>> >> > -designate one line as always non-photo/video
>> >> > -buttons or badges for those who do not want to be on camera
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this something your dance has grappled with?  Anything you've
>> come up with that you're willing to share?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance,
>> >> >
>> >> > Karey Bacon
>> >> > she/her/hers
>> >> > 267-437-5641
>> >> >
>> >> >
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