Hey, know what's really shitty? When an autistic person tells you that something harms them - in this case, vaccine skepticism - and then rather than pause, listen, and reconsider, instead you deny what they've said.
I'm not going to dignify Weogo or Terri's replies, but I won't be silenced by them. On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 5:47 PM Terri Widergren via Organizers < [email protected]> wrote: > PS I want to add,that I have no issue with vaccines, and have gotten > mine, but I want to honor the perspective of others and appreciate the > opportunity to dialogue about the differences not argue. > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:39 PM Terri Widergren <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you, Weogo, for your thoughtful response and citing your sources so >> I can further investigate your perspective. I heard no vaccine hate >> rhetoric, just concern and curiosity from your point of view and openness >> to other ideas if folks want to present them in a way that supports claims >> and opinion. >> >> This is such a divisive and emotionally charged topic, my heart has been >> aching over the division being created on so many levels in our society. >> I hear your heart of concern and sincerity and the amount of researching >> and soul searching you are doing about Covid, and appreciate it. There can >> be so many hurtful and unproductive reactions to one another when someone >> does not align with our perspective. May we find new ways of hearing and >> seeing the humanity in each other. >> >> Yes, good health to all as we trust our wisdom and conscious to guide us, >> Terri >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:28 AM Weogo Reed via Organizers < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I'm not on a hill, looking for a fight or intending to harm, insult >>> or shame anyone. >>> The best outcome of this exchange is for all of us to be a bit more >>> educated. >>> >>> CDC / NIH / FDA: >>> Historically the CDC and NIH were sources of current, accurate >>> health information. >>> Small and low-income countries often used CDC/NIH recommendations >>> verbatim as their health guidelines. >>> From what I see today, they appear remarkably slow to acknowledge some >>> current science. >>> >>> Vitamin D: >>> "Several recent studies have looked at the impact of vitamin D on >>> COVID-19. One study of 489 people found that those who had a vitamin D >>> deficiency were more likely to test positive for the virus that causes >>> COVID-19 than people who had normal levels of vitamin D. >>> Other research has observed high rates of vitamin D deficiency in >>> people with COVID-19 who experienced acute respiratory failure. These >>> people had a significantly higher risk of dying. And a small, randomized >>> study found that of 50 people hospitalized with COVID-19 who were given >>> a high dose of a type of vitamin D (calcifediol), only one needed >>> treatment in the intensive care unit. In contrast, among the 26 people >>> with COVID-19 who weren't given calcifediol, 13 needed to be treated in >>> the intensive care unit." >>> >>> https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/coronavirus-and-vitamin-d/faq-20493088 >>> Note that the current RDA(Recommended Daily Allowance) is for bone >>> health. >>> For optimal health, it may be more. >>> >>> From Liz: >>> "Sunshine and fresh air will not keep you safe." >>> Partially correct. They can increase your health and improve your >>> body's covid response. >>> Sunshine helps your body produce Vitamin D. >>> Time outside for me generally equals exercise - in the garden, >>> doing construction, walking/hiking and more. >>> For the past year and a half, my one gig as a sound person was outside, >>> providing audio for >>> the local state university's graduation in May, with everybody masked >>> and spaced 6'. >>> >>> Liz wrote: >>> "And then there's this: >>> >>> https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 >>> " >>> f There's wide evidence the FDA is out of date on their Ivermectin >>> information. >>> I suggest reading this website: https://covid19criticalcare.com/ >>> >>> Moderna safety under review: >>> >>> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-probing-moderna-vaccine-increased-heart-inflammation-risk-washington-post-2021-08-20/ >>> >>> Deaths from Covid 'incredibly rare' among children: >>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w >>> >>> With an extremely low covid risk for children, and some risk from >>> any medicine, >>> Is vaccinating children for covid the wisest choice? >>> >>> Liz wrote: >>> "The nation's hospitals are filled with young, otherwise healthy, mostly >>> unvaccinated >>> people dying of Covid." >>> Can you please provide data? >>> I couldn't find hospitalization data for young, unvaccinated people, but >>> did find this for deaths, based on age: >>> https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime >>> With so few deaths among the young, might it be accurate to say there >>> aren't that many in hospitals? >>> >>> Ron wrote: >>> "We need everyone vaccinated." >>> >>> Is natural immunity or vaccine-acquired immunity better? >>> Here's one voice: >>> >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-makary-says-natural-immunity-is-more-effective-then-vaccine-immunity/ar-AAMX3sM >>> From the BBC today: >>> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098 >>> There are many points of view to this question, and it may boil down to >>> what's best for an individual. >>> I suggest we consider what we really need is for everybody to be >>> healthy and >>> have covid immunity, not necessarily vaccination. >>> >>> For Americans, 42% are obese: >>> https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html >>> Could this be a more significant health issue than covid? >>> Would you support an effective Public Health campaign for obesity >>> education and reduction? >>> Someone I love dearly is morbidly obese. >>> I remember when he was slim and healthy. >>> He now has multiple health issues that are known to be caused by >>> obesity yet says the health issues are causing the obesity. >>> (May be a bit of both?) >>> Currently he is taking multiple medications and seeing a psychiatrist >>> that >>> isn't helping him be healthier, just more drugged. >>> >>> If I got anything wrong here, please correct me and cite your >>> sources. >>> >>> Thanks and good health, Weogo >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Organizers mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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