> A lot of these are obsolete technologies that Orion has better ways of
> implementing.
> Orion does that JServ/Tomcat can't do.
What you are trying to do here, is to compare a Volvo with a Porche, and
that is plain unfair. Apache and Tomcat is made for one thing, to be a
webserver (It don't even come close to supporting the J2EE standard). Orion
is something else, its a server that complies to the J2EE technology, and
that technology is FAR more than a webserver. If you want to compare
servers, you will have to take BEA WebLogic, Sybase EAS 3.5, with J2EE
Service upgrade and so on. Orion is a good technology, dont missunderstand
me, but get objective and compare it to someone its own size if you catch my
drift :)
> I also think Orion is better than say WebLogic because it is
> so much easier to administer.
Ofcourse its easier to admin, I would guess that the J2EE part of the server
is just as easy to admin, have you seen all that stuff the WebLogic server
supports, its the admins nightmare, and thank good its not my job, but its
two servers of the same class. So if you compare them use some real
arguments like, performance, price, uptime and so on. I think Orion is the
best bet for a small to medium company who is looking for a total sollution
to get on the web. WebLogic is a killer server whitch large organizations go
for, because of its known and has been tested in HIGH trafic areas like
Amazon.com and so on. Don't missunderstand me, i use Orion all the time at
my customers, AND for development at my machine (size is everything hehe).
If you are coming to a company with several different technologies in use
for development, like visual basic, c++, powerbuilder, java, cobol and so
on. I would actualy look at Sybase or BEA. But for a pure java sollution i
think i would go for Orion, because its got good performance and is stable
enough to impress any admin department running Microsoft :)..
> we all know how dumb designers are
<note>Im a developer</note>....But i would like to see your arguments for
why designers are dumb? I know loads of them and they are highly inteligent
(most of em anyways :) but ofcourse theyre experts at different areas than I
(and thank good, then I don't have to do those things).
I think you should do some more thinking before posting a letter like this.
I still think Apache for instance is a killer for some firms. Depending on
what theyre hosting there (its free you know, eaven for commercial hosting).
And last time i checked Orion was still a Beta :)
As a closing thing after so much negative speaking I want to say to the
Orion crew: Good work, hope you will be ready for releasing your product
with config panels and get a widely used product pretty fast. I like the
product so far, I allready deployed one sollution on it, and the customer is
happy (migrating from IIS). This product has huge potential, amongst other
things because of the speed of the server, and since i just love java server
implementations :), their SOO portable between platforms :)...
Klaus Myrseth
Orion is our firms prefered platform for Linux and WAP deployments btw :)
