Keith Kwiatek wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> EJB's are great.... if you like tripling the amount of code you have to
> write....
> 
> How is everyone building their web apps.... with hand coded programs, or
> using automagic tools?

Mostly by hand.
 
> It sure seems like there should be some sort of tool that you can just point
> at database tables, and have it build the jsp or ejb entity bean. AND
> shouldn't there be a tool that you can just drop the bean on an html
> template thus allowing visual access to the bean fields?

If that's the architecture you want, those are the tools for you.
Different people have different ideas of how to design their
applications meaning that the tools available today are normally works
one layer at a time, i.e. One tool for EJB's, one for JSP's etcetera.
However, I do think that IBM's VisualAge does a little of what you're
looking for.
 
> You can't access ejb's directly from a jsp page (like a normal bean) can
> you? 

Yes you can.

> Any tools that will automagically wrap an ejb in a bean for
> presentation in a JSP?

Probably. But you can do it your self in a minute or two.
 
> Am I off base here,  or are ejb's a lot more work? How can people talk about
> how EJB's "speed development time"....?!?

I don't want to run the whole EJB sales pitch here, but basically EJB
gives you automated authentication, authorization, transaction handling
and persistence, among other things. If that does not speed you up, I
don't know what will.

/Marcus
 
> Keith

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