Keith Kwiatek wrote:

> Hello,
>
> EJB's are great.... if you like tripling the amount of code you have to
> write....
>
> How is everyone building their web apps.... with hand coded programs, or
> using automagic tools?
>
> It sure seems like there should be some sort of tool that you can just point
> at database tables, and have it build the jsp or ejb entity bean. AND
> shouldn't there be a tool that you can just drop the bean on an html
> template thus allowing visual access to the bean fields?
>
> You can't access ejb's directly from a jsp page (like a normal bean) can
> you? Any tools that will automagically wrap an ejb in a bean for
> presentation in a JSP?
>
> Am I off base here,  or are ejb's a lot more work? How can people talk about
> how EJB's "speed development time"....?!?
>
> Keith

Others have coverd why EJBs can be very useful in the situations they
were designed for.  I thought I would just add that there are some
good tools out there.   In particular JBuilder 4 is looking really slick...
The foundation  version is free and doesn't have the EJB stuff turned on..
But if you happen to be working on EJBs professionally then getting
the company to drop $2500 for the enterprise version is worth it IMHO.

Clearly this is lot for a non-pro to pay for a tool.. At home I'll just use
the foundation version and some scripts... Works fine and don't cost nothin...

later

dave


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