BUT their support for servlets and JSP only goes as far as versions 2.1 /
1.0, according to their website. That is quite outdated, isnt it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic: development tools


> Again, I�d like to recomend for evaluation Pramati Studio 2, with a JPDA
> debugger, support for JSP compilation,
> EJB support + wizards, Home & Remote interfaces wizard, a built in J2EE
full
> complaint server & facilities to make as
> many packages as you want... The descriptor generation is completely
> commanded via a nice GUI, which enables non-veterans
> to speed up the learning curve; It's also quite fast in low memory
machines
> and has an API for add-in, which makes it as
> extensible as NetBeans/Forte
>
> Licences are about $1180 per seat with one year support, and let me tell
you
> this is unrated support in the industry...
> I get responses(with solutions in them!!!) within 24 hours.
>
> This is a small company from India, and I'd choose them over the 'Big'
names
> every day of the week and twice on sundays
>
> My 2c,
>
> JP
>
> PS: I don�t work for Pramati
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Boehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Lunes, 11 de Diciembre de 2000 12:05
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Off topic: development tools
>
>
> JBuilder 4 is quite nice.  Visual Cafe crashes all the time, I
*definitely*
> cannot recommend it.  JDeveloper is based off of JBuilder, but not the 4.0
> version, so I probably couldn't recommend using that either.  All that
being
> said, I use a combination of 3 tools: Visual SlickEdit for editing, Ant
for
> building/packaging, and Karmira BugSeeker for debugging.  I've found that
> Karmira will support whatever distributed debugging needs you have by
using
> remote debugging, and it's really quite a nice debugger, particularly for
> the cost of only $200US.  As far as validation to the EJB specs (I assume
> you mean generating the deployment descriptors), I really don't have much
> experience in that arena, as I have been hand-coding all of mine so far.
>
> Jason Boehle
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jarek Skreta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:03 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Off topic: development tools
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I am in the process of selecting an IDE for developing J2EE applications
> > on Orion. I would appreciate any advice on the subject. I've noticed
from
> > emails that JBuilder is quite popular. Other contenders that I know off
> > are: Visual Caf�, JDeveloper (Oracle flavour of JBuilder), public domain
> > tools like Ant, etc.
> >
> > The features I am mainly interested in are: ability to develop for
> > different Apps Servers, visual debugging, validation of conformance with
> > specifications (e.g. for EJBs).
> >
> > I will be grateful for your comments and recommendations.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jarek Skreta
> >
> >
>


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