What's the difference between the commercial version of orion and the
standard version (version anyone can download? Are there some disable
features in the standard version ? When is orion going to be open source ?.
thanks -----Original Message-----
From: Jay Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:20 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: SV: Not authorized to view this page
Like most "semi-open" products, the old saying, "You get what you pay for"
applies somewhat with Orion; however, considering you pay nothing for the
developer license and the developer license is infinite, it's a bargain.
There may not be much documentation, but this friendly orion-interest forum
is generally much more responsive and accurate than the support I've
experienced from WebLogic, WebSphere and IPlanet support. The vendors
(BEA, IBM, and Sun) are much more likely to hide critical problems from
developers.
Note that these other products range in retail price from around $10,000
(WebLogic and WebSphere) to $35,000 (IPlanet) US dollars PER CPU, not the
bargain price of $1500 PER PLATFORM for Orion. The total cost for IPlanet
on a 64-processor Sun E-10000 would be a over $2 million (not including the
database)!
These costs do not include the backend database. HypersonicSQL is totally
free and is also totally Java, though it may be going through a transition
regarding support and future maintenance. I've seen that many Orion users
have had success with another open database, PostgreSQL, that offers
commercial (for a price) support.
Orion's performance relative to other J2EE products is debatable, but I
believe it is at the very top, if not the fastest. In addition, Orion is
pure Java, so it is very portable (I actually develop on my Win98 laptop).
Orion also compares very well when you consider that some of the grossly
overpriced products do not even support EAR and WAR files directly.
Other great features include automatic reconfiguration when XML config
files are changed, automatic detection and deployment of new/changed WAR
and EAR files, and the ability to develop enterprise and web applications
in directories (in lieu of deploying EAR and WAR files).
I can go on and on. Say what you will, Orion works for me. You're welcome
to use the others -- just don't forget to bring your checkbook!
Jay Armstrong
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 10:03 AM 2/16/01 +0100, you wrote:
> Dont be disapointed at the _product_ because a _tutorial_ lacks some
>information :) -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Från: Adamson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 13:49
>Till: Orion-Interest
>Ämne: RE: Not authorized to view this page
>
> I found the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml
>supplied in the tutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also
>had to rename index.htm to index.html, a little disapointing to have
>these hassles considering that were talking about a comercial product.
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Magnus Rydin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 PM
>To: Orion-Interest
>Subject: SV: Not authorized to view this page
>
> Are the pages protected?
>Have you added a entry to your principals.xml for the app?
>What version of Orion are you running?
>More information needed.
>WR > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>> Från: Adamson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05
>> Till: Orion-Interest
>> Ämne: Not authorized to view this page
>>
>>
>> I get the message 'Not authorized to view this page' when
>> trying to run the
>> addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion is working
>> correctly as I can run the orion-primer example. Any help
>> much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Come on !! Someone must have had a similar problem, I'm
>> running Orion on Win
>> NT workstation
>> trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not
>> have access to
>> something on my own machine ??????
>>
>> I've tried loging in as admin (normal account should have admin
rights
>> anyway !) no difference. If any Orion support people monitor this
list
>> please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to
>> deploying it within a
>> 10 server cluster ($$$$$$$$$$$).
>>
>> regards,
>> Scott.
>>
>>
>
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