I believe Interbase is totally free. For some reason Borland does not
emphasize this very much - maybe to make sure people don't think it is a
discount product. Interbase is released under a licence which besides the
usual juristical mumbo jumbo says the following three important things:
"grants You a world-wide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license" (...)
"to use, reproduce, modify, display, perform, sublicense and distribute the
Original Code (or portions thereof) with or without Modifications, and/or as
part of a Larger Work;" (...)
"under Patents Claims infringed by the making, using or selling of Original
Code, to make, have made, use, practice, sell, and offer for sale, and/or
otherwise dispose of the Original Code (or portions thereof)."
And I feel sure that if it was not for these sentences there would not be an
open source project based on Interbase called "Firebird" at
http://firebird.sourceforge.net. - That's interesting by the way... when
Interbase went open source Borland was slow on getting up to speed with the
open source web community stuff, so the open source developers took the
project elsewhere and renamed it "Firebird", which means that Borland has no
control over what happens with the Firebird project. - Probably not what
Borland expected at all. Now the developers at "Firebird" claim they have
made a bunch of bug fixes which should be the reason to choose their
product.
Still, we are definately going to stick with Borland for now; after all they
have many years of experience with developing the product, so having them
control the open source effort somewhat might be a good thing.
Hope this clarifies what Borland did not make obvious at their web site.
Yours
Randahl
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
Sent: 5. april 2001 15:05
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: orion + jbuilder4 --> sapdb?
Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:
>
Thanks for your recommendation. We've thought about Interbase. I browsed
through Borland's web pages which were really not that informative and I got
an impression that *development* use with Interbase is free but *production*
use would be under commercial license... That was why we didn't consider it
at
this time. Or was I totally wrong and Interbase is free for all uses?
I am just exploring SapDB. Got the RPMs installed and I'm now browsing
through
the PDF documentation, which is a bit confusing (is there an HTML version
somewhere of these docs? Acroread under Linux doesn't behave well with my
Netscape). I cannot find a "beginner's tutorial" anywhere, I mean
information
like how to start / stop the service, how to start the gui and so on. Any
help
appreciated :)
Cheers,
Peter
> Hi Peter
>
> I have not read your original post, nor the replies. However, I just
wanted
> to recommend using Interbase. If you want to use Borland JBuilder, it
seems
> obvious to use Borland Interbase aswell - I am not completely up to speed
> with JBuilder, but I would expect that their own database product would
have
> the best integration with their IDE.
>
> We have chosen Interbase because it is an old, high quality, reliable
> product from Borland. I have absolutely nothing against Postgre or MySQL,
> but the fact that Borland has released Interbase as a free open source
> product gives you free access to a database which has been through 15
years
> of professional development. Now, if anyone can mention a product which
> beats that I am all ears...
>
> In hopes I have not mentioned something, someone else already posted
>
> Randahl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Peltonen
> Sent: 5. april 2001 10:17
> To: Orion-Interest
> Cc: Jukka-Pekka Naukkarinen; Ilkka Suvanto
> Subject: orion + jbuilder4 --> sapdb?
>
> Thank you for everyone answering my MySQL question. So, it appears that
the
> situation is this, if I want to use Orion + JBuilder4:
>
> * PostgreSQL works fine except it isn't able to show tables in JBuilder
>
> * MySQL's EJB support doesn't work (and we need that!)
>
> * If we want to use Hypersonic we have to stop Orion while updating the db
>
> So, the question is, does SapDB work with our combination (has anyone used
> it
> with JBuilder and Orion)? I haven't really heard about it before, so how
> does
> it compare for example to MySQL and PostgreSQL?
>
> Regards,
> Peter
