Klaus,

A hundred times faster? BullFeathers!

That is not possible since one of Borland AppServer's best features is
"HotSwap" technology for supporting nonstop deployment and nonstop updating
and maintenance of EJBs.

Next time check and make sure your not in Kansas before making these
statments.

Bill G...

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Klaus Thiele
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:04 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Questions about Orion


I know about Orion _and_ Borland's AppSrv and WebLogic and i'm glad
to use Orion because the development and turnaround/deploytimes are
more than hundred times faster.
Orion runs for us in a production-environment on some Linux 1/2/4-CPU-
Machines very fast and stable.

klaus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: Questions about Orion


> Don't know about Orion but I am using MS/SQL Server 2000 with JSQLConnect
> JDBC drivers with both Borland and WebLogic Appservers. And, it is working
> very well.
>
> Bill G...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The
> elephantwalker
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:08 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Questions about Orion
>
>
> Vlad,
>
> Here are the answers as I know them:
>
> 1. SQL Server 2000 database --> That's a tough one. I don't know any IT
> managers recommending this beast. But if you got to live with it ... make
> sure you test the jdbc drivers with all necessary uses of sql including
> things like LIMIT, CLOB, BLOB as well as 100's of open connections. These
> are the key database needs for a appserver servicing the web.
>
> 2. Orion uses the Java 1.3 jvm from Sun, IBM or others. As they say, if it
> runs on one, it runs on all.
>
> 3. We use IBM's jvm with absolutely no problems.
>
> 4. Scalability is determined by your clustering needs. Orion clusters
> httpsessions in islands of two to four servers. Statefull Session Beans
are
> not clustered, but entity beans and slsb's are easily set up in a
clustered
> environment. Orion is easily the fastest jsp/servlet engine on the planet,
> and along with some very good performance numbers on the ejb side, you can
> out do other app servers by a factor of 3 to 1. By the way, Orion by
itself
> can out do IIS by six to one! Oracle thought so much of the Orion
> performance, they licensed the software as the core of their j2ee
> application server.
>
>
> 5. j2ee security is used on Orion, you can implement your own user
security,
> or link up with ldap, or use the builtin usermanagers for databases. SSL
is
> also a feature of Orion, but I would recommend locking down your web
server
> with SSL, or use a hardward accelerator, and proxying Orion outside the
dmz.
> This is how most firms implement appservers.
>
> 6. Like anything, if you run it on Windows, it will be compromised. We
have
> not had any security troubles with Linux RedHat 7.1 and orion.
>
> 7. Ironflare doesn't really provide the technical support that some need.
> With Ironflare's encouragement, companies like Flowsheet Technologies and
> others provide subscription based customer support for Orion. Join our
site,
> www.elephantwalker.com, its free, and sign up for a subscription when you
> need some help. We also provide a course for Orion in the San Francisco
Bay
> Area.
>
> regards,
>
> the elephantwalker
> www.elephantwalker.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vlad
> Vinogradsky
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:22 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Questions about Orion
>
>
> I am evaluating the Orion server for use in a production web site which
> would be hosted by a hosting services provider. It would run on a
> Windows 2000 box alongside other web sites serviced by IIS and will
> manage data in SQL Server 2000 database. I have a few questions I wasn't
> able to find answers to and I wonder if you can help me with them.
>
> 1. I wonder if anybody had any negative experience using Orion server on
> Windows 2000 or with SQL Server 2000? I-Net jdbc products are going to
> be used.
>
> 2. Any comments on performance, scalability and availability of the
> Orion server on Windows 2000?
>
> 3. What VM is best to use to run Orion server?
>
> 4. Does it have auto start and restart features? Do you have to have an
> interactive logon session to start it?
>
> 5. What security context does it run in?
>
> 6. What is Orion server security track record? Has it ever been
> compromised or taken out by DOS attacks?
>
> 7. Any comments on IronFlare's technical support? It looks like there is
> no live tech support - just email.
>
> All input is welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vlad
>
>
>
>



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