Greg, First of all, let me commend you on your past and ongoing efforts to have the scrolls radiocarbon dated and to insure such tests are accurate. Tracking down castor oil as a possible source of error in the dating process was first of all a great piece of scholarly detective-work; to secondly have this intuition verified by lab tests is just excellent. The desire of Rasmussen and his colleagues to get it right is commendable. Timothy Jull's attitude is just puzzling to me. I would think his top priority as a scientist would be to insure that lab results are accurate. To downplay the scientific significance of a source of potential error in past radiocarbon dates, namely the documented use of castor oil, does not seem worthy of his position as one of the leading figures in the radiocarbon field. His posting appears to suggest that errors of dating of less than - what, centuries? - or errors on dating of only a few rather than all the scrolls, are not matters for concern. It is true that in the initial radiocarbon tests, the purpose was only to determine the approximate era of the scrolls in second temple times, to exclude for instance the thesis of Solomon Zeitlin that the scrolls were either medieval texts or modern forgeries. For such purposes, a difference on the order of mere decades would have been relatively insignificant. But the issues in the scrolls field have changed appreciably since then, which perhaps Jull, as a figure not directly involved in scrolls research, may not be aware. For instance, radiocarbon dates are important as a reality check on paleographic dating (e.g. Cross's scheme of absolute paleographic dates with claimed quarter-century precision). Again, sufficiently accurate radiocarbon dates could theoretically exclude historical interpretations of specific tested texts such as Pesher Habakkuk (which Eisenman claims alludes to early Christian personalities) or others. The age of the Qumran corpus as a whole - whether first century BCE or CE - has great relevance both to the historical interpretation of the scrolls and to the archaeology of Qumran. A shift in radiocarbon dates on the order of decades is extremely significant when considering all such questions, especially in light of the common - and for the most part proper - perception of scientific objectivity and accuracy attached to radiocarbon dating. But the necessary scientific method required to obtain accurate radiocarbon data is surely inconsistent with cavalier attitudes towards serious issues of sample contamination! I for one greatly look forward to further developments of procedures to insure more accurate future radiocarbon testing.
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