On Feb 11, 2008 6:51 AM, DongInn Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi eric,
>
> Thanks for your patience and all your effort.
>
> I am not sure if this is the case but.. since you have said that you
> should use the "Updates" repo too, I doubt that your F8 machine may not be
> on a fresh installation status.
I /think/ I should use the updates repo. It's one thing I haven't tried yet.
I am most definitely using a fresh installation. On both the VMware
installation and the dell server installation, all I have done to the
machine is install FC8 straight off the DVD then make the minor
modifications to the installation as required to install OSCAR. I'm trying
real hard to eliminate user error here.
>
> If it is, you may have to deal with all the dependencies on your own way
> that we have not handled.
>
> For the IDE HDD, like I have mentioned on the devel list before, you
> should use "UYOK" to deploy your image to the client nodes on Fedora 7 / 8.
> Have you?
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08450.html
Oooh..
No, I haven't. I didn't know about that message until now. That thread would
have saved me a crapload of time since everything I have had to re/discover
seems to be in ther
. I also hadn't looked at UYOK becuase of how many people are reporting
success with FC8 - it just makes me feel like I'm missing some config file
entry somewhere.
An assumption of mine has been challenged. I have been assuming that the
kernel deployed to the client nodes /was/ the FC8 kernel, especially given
how grumpy OSCAR was getting about things like the kernel headers. I re-read
through the manual and now I have properly absorbed the implications of the
first paragraph in section 5.8.4. This explains handily why FC8 installs
like a charm, but the systemimager kernel freaks the hell out.
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08450.html>
>
> BTW, for the test machine, I use the real machine whose images are saved
> on my image server. So, whenever I mess up with my test machine, I can
> easily go back to the fresh / almost perfectly optimized installation status
> where I start to test OSCAR again.
I'll probably do something like that. Right now I'm just trying to get a
simple 2 machine cluster linked with a crossover cable. Then I'll get fancy
and use stuff like storing the images elsewhere, using switches n' stuff,
and 20+ nodes.
>
> If this helps to the OSCAR community, I will post a simple instruction to
> the OSCAR wiki page.
>
> Regards,
>
> - DongInn
>
>
> eric gisse wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2008 5:18 AM, DongInn Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Well, my fedora-8-i386.url is
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat fedora-8-i386.url
> > > file:/tftpboot/distro/fedora-8-i386
> > >
> >
> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os
> >
> > As you can see, mine is not the dvd one but everything containing
> > all the rpms (DVD + updates + etc).
> >
> >
> > Yes, I confirm that the DVD repo and DVD does not have all the rpms
> > that we need and we should use the "Everything" repository.
> >
> >
> > This took me a long time to figure out. It was not clear that a) I
> > needed to do this at all and b) that /installing/ the missing packages
> > was not good enough *and* if you did that, the image would be created
> > but would never work. The documentation needs some Fedora 8-specific
> > additions. Which I will try to suggest/add when I get this cluster
> > operational.
> >
> > For some reason I still can't discern, OSCAR is incapable of using yum
> > to pull RPM's right off the server like I can do through "yum install" @
> > the command prompt. Plus OSCAR won't cache the ~250mb of RPM's it pulls
> > off the remote repositories, and refuses to acknowledge them when I
> > directly incorporate them into a local yum repository *and* reference it
> > in the advanced repository. This stuff needs mentioning.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have never tested OSCAR 5.1 b1 or branch-5-1 on VMware and mine is
> > just a normal P4 machine.
> >
> >
> > As are my expected server and client nodes. VMware is my way of saying
> > I'm sick and tired of messing with the PCs until I get this sorted out.
> > OSCAR behaves, in my estimation, counter-intuitively sometimes.
> >
> >
> >
> > The VMWare behavior may cause some problems that we have not
> > expected but I have never encountered eric's problems on my physical
> > machines.
> >
> >
> > Agreed. I think my current imaging problems I'm seeing on VMware are
> > VMware specific due to the way VMware does harddrives. If I had an extra
> > drive I could directly access with the image, I'm sure I'd be OK. But I
> > don't. I'm going to be either imaging directly off a VMware headnode or
> > a server with OSCAR installed the way I have it installed on VMware
> > later today.
> >
> > Yes, I know that FC5 is the real "supported" version but I do not trust
> > it to work reliably on all my machines since I have a mix of IDE and
> > SCSI drives. I don't seem to have that many other options as far as
> > either clustering solutions [ROCKS is too demanding] or other OS' are
> > concerned [Redhat == Fedora, everything else = x86_64 or ppc].
> >
> >
> >
> > So eric, can you please try to play with OSCAR 5.1 b1 on an actual
> > machine when you have a chance?
> > Please post again if you still have the same problems.
> >
> >
> > I did, but the responses were less than helpful.
> >
> > My current theory is that /Everything isn't good enough, that I need to
> > have the /updates directory as well. Which is what I used as I built the
> > images on VMware. I'm going to use VMware to act as the server node
> > until I'm satisfied I have the kinks worked out. This only because I'm
> > sick of reinstalling Fedora and OSCAR to ensure none of my fuckups are
> > transitioning between attempts.
> >
> > It must be the case that I'm missing something simple since so many
> > people seem to be making FC8 work on newer hardware & OSCAR 5.1b1. The
> > stuff I'm using is ~6 years old, but still perfectly functional. P4's
> > and P3's, with 1 possibly 2 Athlon's thrown in.
> >
> > I spent most of my time trying to figure out why installing packages
> > directly wasn't good enough. The last week has had me fiddling with
> > online repositories and figuring out PXE & dhcp since I have used
> > neither before.
> >
> > My last attempt on the P4 head node was as it is now, except I wasn't
> > using the updates directory to help build the image. The image built
> > correctly, PXE & dhcp played ball, and the image downloaded. Except the
> > image would not install on the harddrive for some reason. Yes, I know a
> > log would be helpful but I can't copy and paste out of the terminal
> > window for some goddamn reason and I can't remember what the error was.
> > I'm sure I'll see it again.
> >
> > The only other theory I have is that the dells I have are pieces of shit
> > and that FC8, even though it installs w/o incident on them, somehow
> > chokes anyway. I'll try throwing it on an old non-dell P3 or AMD Athlon
> > system to check that out.
> >
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