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Jenny:

SGE will install on all your nodes using a script.  You'll love it.
We're experimenting with various schedulers here and have found SGE to
be the least annoying and most reliable.  I started using SGE on
Bernard's recommendation.

Arnie Miles

Jenny Aquilino wrote:
| Hi Bernard,
|
| That is good input.  I went to their site to try and get some
| documentation and it looked like OpenPBS is no longer so Open.  =(
| Professional PBS appears to be what they're throwing their effort behind
| now.  I'll check out the other batch schedulers you suggested. I can
| still use my same infrastructure that was setup with OSCAR and just use
| cexec or something to push out the new scheduler to the other
| nodes...once I have them.  Thanks for the feedback.  =)
|
| -Jenny  =)
| At 11:28 AM -0700 9/3/04, Bernard Li wrote:
|
|> Hi Jenny:
|>
|> Just throwing in my 2 cents here.
|>
|> If you are new to batch scheduling systems and you don't have a
|> preference, I would recommend using something like Torque or SGE
|> (instead of OpenPBS).  OpenPBS is no longer being maintained and there
|> are much better choices out there.
|>
|> Cheers,
|>
|> Bernard
|>
|>>  -----Original Message-----
|>>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|>>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
|>>  Jenny Aquilino
|>>  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:08
|>>  To: Michael Edwards; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|>>  Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] How do you make master node a
|>>  compute node too?
|>>
|>>  Hi Michael,
|>>
|>>  Wow, thanks for the quick response.  =)  Yeah, please don't
|>>  break your production cluster just to check this out.  I will
|>>  look at the installer again to see if I see that check box
|>>  you're talking about.
|>>  It actually sounds really familiar.  I installed an OSCAR
|>>  cluster about 3 years ago and I think I remember seeing that
|>>  then but I can't seem to find it now.  I did try defining the
|>>  master nodes private interface as node0.cluster using the
|>>  install_server GUI with horrific results.  Yeah, I won't try
|>>  that again.  It completely broke my access to the oda
|>>  database so I couldn't back out of the installation or fix
|>>  it.  I spent quite a bit of time trying differen things like
|>>  granting access to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] user but it
|>>  still wouldn't work so I finally just threw my hands up and
|>>  rebuilt the system.  =P
|>>
|>>  As for just geting mpich to work on its own, it appears that
|>>  it is configured correctly after the OSCAR installation so
|>>  that isn't really a huge problem.  Well, except for the fact
|>>  that it is only seeing one processor for use.  If you have
|>>  any idea why that is happening please let me know.  I would
|>>  really like to have all the management stuff working though
|>>  which is why I'm still pushing to try and get the xpbs stuff
|>>  setup correctly.  If you have any other ideas for me, that
|>>  would be great.  Thanks Michael.
|>>
|>>  -Jenny  =)
|>>  At 12:33 PM -0400 9/3/04, Michael Edwards wrote:
|>>  >I am fairly sure there is a radio box somewhere in the
|>>  install process
|>>  >that says "Use head node to compute".  I will try and see if
|>>  I can find
|>>  >it if I can find a computer I don't mind breaking...  Don't want to
|>>  >mess with my production cluster, at least one of the installer steps
|>>  >does things even if you hit cancel :)
|>>  >
|>>  >If you just need to use lam (or I assume mpich, never tried
|>>  installing
|>>  >that one), it is quite easy to install stand alone and
|>>  configure to run
|>>  >on one computer.  OSCAR is mainly handy for installing the scheduler
|>>  >and resource managers.  Then you could go back and start over with
|>>  >OSCAR once you get some compute nodes.  Just a thought for a
|>>  quick fix.
|>>  >
|>>  >Unless there is something else in OSCAR you would need for
|>>  development,
|>>  >I can't think of anything off the top of my head though.
|>>  >I could walk you through using lam on just one node if you
|>>  need a hand,
|>>  >I have done it before while testing things.
|>>  >
|>>  >On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:05:44 -0700, Jenny Aquilino
|>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>>  >>  Hi,
|>>  >>
|>>  >>  I was hoping that someone out there might be able to help me out
|>>  >> with  this question.  I am currently working on a rather strange
|>
|>  > >> cluster...it's only one node.  I know that sounds strange
|>
|>>  but there  >> is a reason for it.  The user only has one system to
|>> start
|>>  out with  >> but would like to add more nodes very soon.  The problem
|>>  is that he  >> can't wait for the other nodes to come on-line before
|>> he starts  >> developing on it so I need to make this one node cluster
|>>  functional  >> for him.
|>>  >>
|>>  >>  I saw the FAQ on the OSCAR sourceforge website that says
|>>  to modify  >> the /var/spool/pbs/server_priv/nodes file and then
|>> restart the  >> pbs_mom, pbs_server in order to make the master a
|>> node so
|>>  I did that.
|>>  >>  When I run "pbsnodes -a" it does reflect my one node.  However,
|>> when  >> I run xpbs to see how many processors are allocated to my
|>>  server, it  >> reflects 0.  It also shows the workq as not having
|>> access to any  >> processors.  I added a print statement to one of
|>> the mpich
|>>  example  >> programs to print out the number of cpus recognized by
|>> the  >> "MPI_Comm_size" command and it returned 1 when in fact my
|>>  system has
|>>  >>  2 processors.  Does anyone know why this might be?  Is
|>>  one of the  >> processors on the master node always reserved?  More
|>>  generally, is  >> there a set of steps anyone could recommend to be
|>> able to get the  >> master node setup like a client as far as the
|>> monitoring and  >> scheduling tools go?  I did go into qmgr and by
|>> hand can
|>>  enter the  >> information but it seems that when other nodes get
|>> built, that
|>>  >  > information is automatically populated into the tables
|>>  and I would
|>>  >>  really like it if I could get the master to populate this
|>>  >> information  on itself when it is setup to also be a compute node.
|>>  >>
|>>  >>  I hope this e-mail makes sense.  I'm a little crazy after
|>>  several  >> nights of tossing and turning trying to figure out why
|>>  things aren't  >> working the way I would expect them to.  Thanks in
|>> advance
|>>  for any  >> help you can offer.  =)
|>>  >>
|>>  >>  -Jenny Aquilino  =)
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