Hi ST:

All OSCAR software are installed in /opt, so it is either in /opt/opium
or /opt/sync_files.

Cheers,

Bernard 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:55
> To: Bernard Li
> Cc: Michael Edwards; [email protected]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] add new nodes
> 
> Bernard and Michael,
> 
> Thanks for all the hints.
> 
> I currently have one of the new nodes installed with FC4 
> x86_64 and have 
> NFS working. Perhaps I should try Michael's suggestion first 
> to see how 
> easy/difficult it is to set up other services by hand. In fact, I am 
> stumbled on sharing the user account info between the server 
> and nodes. 
> If I understand correctly, OPIUM is the package that does the job. 
> Unfortunately, I have difficulty finding the relevant configuration 
> files and understanding how OPIUM sets them up. Is there 
> something I can 
> read to learn more about OPIUM?
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> ST
> 
> Bernard Li wrote:
> 
> >As far as I know there is no upgrade path between x86 OS and 
> x86_64 OS.
> >The only way to do it is to re-install.
> >
> >Perhaps Erich has some insights as to how you can create x86_64 image
> >for your current x86 cluster.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Bernard 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Michael Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:03
> >>To: Shiang-Tai Lin
> >>Cc: Bernard Li; [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] add new nodes
> >>
> >>What you would probably have to do is install the 64 bit OS on the
> >>nodes by hand, pull a golden image off that node with the 
> systemimager
> >>tools (not through oscar at this point) and then use oscar to push
> >>that image to the other nodes.
> >>
> >>The kicker of this is that you would still have to set up the first
> >>node by hand (including all the Oscar packages!) so just for fun you
> >>might try your original clone/upgrade idea on that node 
> before pulling
> >>the golden image back with systemimager.  I will be a bit 
> supprised if
> >>the upgrade from x86 to x86_64 goes well, but stranger things have
> >>happened.
> >>
> >>As a disclaimer, I have never actually done this myself, I just know
> >>it is possible with the tools included with Oscar.  From my
> >>understanding, this is the way most people use systemimager outside
> >>the oscar community.
> >>
> >>On 1/13/06, Shiang-Tai Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hi Bernard,
> >>>
> >>>It would be of great help if there is a documentation on 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>how to make a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>"64-bit" image. Just out of curiosity: would it be possible 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>to install
> >>    
> >>
> >>>the new nodes with 32-bit OS but then I go into each node 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>and upgrade it
> >>    
> >>
> >>>to a 64-bit OS (this may save me from setting up pbs, 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>ganglia, maui, etc
> >>    
> >>
> >>>on that node by myself.)?
> >>>
> >>>ST
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Bernard Li wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Shiang-Tai:
> >>>>
> >>>>I would recommend you research more carefully the implication of
> >>>>running your application in 64-bit mode vs 32-bit mode in more
> >>>>detail.  It may not be as simple as differences for the 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>max address space.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>Currently we do not support multi-distro/multi-arch, so 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>the answer to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>#1 is no.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for 2, it is not possible to install 64-bit OS on 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>32-bit machine,
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>the OS simply will not run.
> >>>>
> >>>>Having said that, it may not be impossible to create a 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>x86_64 image
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>for your new nodes and just assign the new nodes to the 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>"64-bit" image.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>Erich is working on the multi-arch/multi-distro feature in trunk,
> >>>>perhaps he has some advice/suggestions for you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>Bernard
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >>----------
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>*From:* Shiang-Tai Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>*Sent:* Fri 13/01/2006 00:38
> >>>>*To:* Bernard Li
> >>>>*Cc:* [email protected]
> >>>>*Subject:* Re: [Oscar-users] add new nodes
> >>>>
> >>>>Bernard Li wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'm cc:ing the oscar-users list, please keep all 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>responses in the list.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>Dear Bernard,
> >>>>
> >>>>My apologies. I'd be more careful about it in the future.
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>The following are answers to your questions:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1. Currently OSCAR does not support multiple distroes, 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>in the very
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>near future we would be able to.  So either Fedora Core 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>2 works, or
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>you can rebuild your cluster with Fedora Core 3.
> >>>>>2. You can install a x86 OS on AMD Opteron, however, 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>you will only be
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>able to access max ~3GB of memory per process.  If this is not a
> >>>>>concern for you, then you can try to install x86 OS.  
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>Of course if
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>you're starting from scratch, it is recommended that 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>you install a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>x86_64 OS.
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>Thanks for the clear explanation. I didn't know that the 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>difference
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>between 32 and 64-bit machines is just the max memory 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>access. In this
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>case I would try to use x86 OS first and see if it works.
> >>>>
> >>>>But just in case should it fail, can I
> >>>>1. use FC2 x86 OS for the original cluster but FC2 x86_64 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>for the new
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>nodes?
> >>>>or
> >>>>2. Use FC2 x86_64 OS on an Intel 32 bit machine (so that I can use
> >>>>x86_64 on the whole cluster)?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks a lot for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>>ST
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>If Fedora Core 2 x86 works on your AMD dualcores, then 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>this should be
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>pretty straightforward.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Bernard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >>----------
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>*From:* Shiang-Tai Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>*Sent:* Thu 12/01/2006 23:46
> >>>>>*To:* Bernard Li
> >>>>>*Subject:* Re: [Oscar-users] add new nodes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hi Bernard,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks for the reply.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1. I've not tried FC2 on my AMD opteron. From the FC 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>release notes, it
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>seems that it would work. Can I install FC3 on the new 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>nodes if the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>server is FC2?
> >>>>>2. I thought that I'd need x86_64 for the new nodes. 
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>Would x86 work on a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>64-bit machine?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks for any input.
> >>>>>ST
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Bernard Li wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Questions:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>1) Does Fedora Core 2 run on your AMD dualcores?
> >>>>>>2) Are you planning to install 32-bit or 64-bit OS 
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>(i.e. Fedora Core 2
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>x86 or x86_64)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bernard
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >>----------
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
> >>>>>>Shiang-Tai Lin
> >>>>>>*Sent:* Thu 12/01/2006 22:25
> >>>>>>*To:* [email protected]
> >>>>>>*Subject:* [Oscar-users] add new nodes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a cluster setup with Fedora Core 2 and OSCAR 
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>4.0. All the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>computers are intel Xeon dual processor (32-bit) PCs.
> >>>>>>I would like to add 3 computing nodes to it but these 
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>3 new computers
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>have AMD dural core 64-bit processors.
> >>>>>>Is it possible to add these three nodes to my 
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>original cluster using
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>OSCAR? I read the message by Michael J. Brim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>(http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=75922) and it
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>seems to me possible. If so, where can I
> >>>>>>find a more detailed instruction to do this? If not, 
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>is there any
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>solution for me?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks a lot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Shiang-Tai
> >>>>>>
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