Grigory,

Based on your tone, i won't even reply in details. It seems that you know 
better OSCAR than me, i can assure you that this is normal is /etc/fstab is not 
in the image and if the initrd is not in the image either; SystemConfigurator 
is supposed to deal with that at the end of the node deployment. 
SystemConfigurator may have an issue but SystemConfigurator is not specific to 
OSCAR (i may implement a work around if someone manges to send me all the 
needed details to actually do so efficiently.

And BTW __oscar-6.x is not yet ready for production__. 

Since you give the attitude, I won't reply to any of your emails from now.

Regards,

----- Mail Original -----
De: "Grigory Shamov" <ga...@yahoo.com>
À: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Envoyé: Mardi 28 Avril 2009 13h36:42 GMT -05:00 USA/Canada - États de l'Est
Objet: Re: [Oscar-users] 6.0.2, 6.0.3 and broken initrd


Hi Geoffroy,

I just want to say that I had the same issue -- with both unstable and stable 
OSCAR 6.0's, with CentOS 5.2 and 5.3. I've seen messages about musing 
/etc/fstab during the corresponding OSCAR stages, and kernels fail to find 
root, no matter whether YUOK kernel checkbox is on in the OSCAR wizard.

I dont think that the attitude "its not an OSCAR problem" is very productive. 
There is a problem, and if to solve it a user has to manually work with 
SystemImager -- what does he need the OSCAR for?

My conclusion was that the OSCAR 6 is not yet stable to use for now, and there 
is no manpower for its developers to fix it, so I switched to another platform 
for now. I couldnt afford any more downtime for my hardware. 

May be for my next cluster I will try OSCAR again, for I like it (have used 
with success in the past 5 years). Best of luck!

--
With best regards,
Grigory Shamov
Chemisty,
University of Manitoba



--- On Tue, 4/28/09, geoffroy.val...@free.fr <geoffroy.val...@free.fr> wrote:

> From: geoffroy.val...@free.fr <geoffroy.val...@free.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] 6.0.2, 6.0.3 and broken initrd
> To: "Ansgar Esztermann" <aesz...@gwdg.de>
> Cc: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 8:24 AM
> Ansgar,
> 
> Sorry but i cannot help you. You do not give me enough
> details, keep continue to say that OSCAR is broken even when
> i give you other points to investigate. Sorry i cannot do
> more based on the information i have and again, __ALL__
> users how had similar issues (and i know about), the problem
> was because the kernel in the image is 2.6.18 based whereas
> the SystemImager kernel to image the node is > 2.6.19
> (SATA naming issue and so on -- remember that selecting the
> SCSI template when creating the nodes may not be enough), or
> because the kernel shipped with RHEL was not working
> correctly on their platforms.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> PS: for the kernel difference between the headnode and the
> compute nodes, we use online repositories for both of them.
> This is not an OSCAR issue, we do not enforce the version.
> So most certainly your headnode is not up-to-date or not
> using the same repositories, one of them being out-of-date.
> 
> ----- Mail Original -----
> De: "Ansgar Esztermann" <aesz...@gwdg.de>
> À: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: "geoffroy vallee" <geoffroy.val...@free.fr>
> Envoyé: Mardi 28 Avril 2009 05h44:16 GMT -05:00 USA/Canada
> - États de l'Est
> Objet: Re: [Oscar-users] 6.0.2, 6.0.3 and broken initrd
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2009, at 21:22 , geoffroy.val...@free.fr
> wrote:
> 
> > Actually this is not the way SystemImager is working.
> The /etc/fstab  
> > is not necessary to prepare and deploy the image. And
> actually, i do  
> > not have any initrd issue with any of the platforms i
> am using.  
> > Moreover, what is the
> 
> OK. Then I probably do not understand where the initrd used
> to boot  
> the deployed nodes comes from. There is one being generated
> when oscar  
> installs the kernel into the image; but since there is no
> fstab at  
> that point, it will not boot.
> During the course of the installation, systemconfigurator
> is called  
> from the .master script. However,
> /usr/lib/systemconfig/Initrd.pm will  
> generate an initrd only for kernels that do not already
> have one.
> 
> 
> > problem? When the system reboots, it cannot find the
> root file  
> > system? If so, it is actually not an initrd issue but
> 
> Yes. The first error message after reboot says that
> mkrootdev is  
> expecting a filesystem option (in the initrd, it looks like
> this:
> mkrootdev -t  -o defaults,ro
> 
> Filesystem type and device are missing unless an fstab has
> been  
> present during initrd creation.
> Later, the system will panic when trying to switchroot.
> 
> > a problem based on the different between the kernel
> issue to image  
> > the node and then the kernel used to boot the
> 
> OK, maybe kernel versions are somehow mixed up. I
> have  
> kernel-2.6.18-92.el5 in the image; this is not quite the
> same as the  
> kernel on the master (kernel-2.6.18-92.1.22.el5), although
> it should  
> be as far as I understand the docs:
> http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/SystemImager
> 
> > compute nodes. Please, look at the SystemImager
> documentation or  
> > give us more details about your configuration so we
> can try to help  
> > you.
> 
> I have looked at the wiki at systemimager.org, but I am a
> bit lost as  
> to what to look for. Obviously, the initrd used to boot the
> node is  
> not correct, but it is not clear to me at what point the
> initrd should  
> be generated. Are there any specific parts of the
> SystemImager docs I  
> should take a closer look at?
> As to my configuration, that should not be much out of the
> ordinary.  
> CentOS 5.2 (now 5.3), Oscar unstable. The nodes are
> SATA-based, so I  
> made sure to use /usr/share/oscar/oscarsamples/scsi.disk as
> a disk  
> file. It is an x86_64 system. Is there anything else you
> would like to  
> know?
> 
> > PS: i also know for sure that few users solved booting
> issues with  
> > CentOS-5.3 instead of CentOS-5.2, the kernel
> configuration is  
> > slightly different and avoid issues on few platforms.
> CentOS-5.3 is  
> > currently used by default if you are using the
> unstable repository.
> 
> Yes, I am using unstable with 5.3.
> 
> 
> Thank you very much for your help,
> 
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ansgar Esztermann
> DV-Systemadministration
> Max-Planck-Institut für biophysikalische Chemie, Abteilung
> 105
> 
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