i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, you said you know
where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you can explain
about it.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i will be please
> if
> > you can share my story to the world.
>
> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself .. look into
> the mirror ..
>
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for you.
> >>
> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list .. look at the
> To:
> >> header
> >>
> >> >
> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to get info and
> >> > learn
> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing business or
> >> > other
> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and other
> >> > resources.
> >>
> >> like i said, I know where you come from ...
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus <
> kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > +100 Rafe!
> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser!
> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk longkang,
> jatuh,
> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We can always
> get
> >> >> > advice
> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and minimise
> >> >> > mistake.
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve success faster
> >> >> > than
> >> >> > people before them.
> >> >>
> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder how silicon
> >> >> valley able to come into being ..
> >> >>
> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find their own
> path.
> >> >> chasing others, but not lead.
> >> >>
> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is pointless
> >> >> anyway
> >> >> ..
> >> >>
> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've chosen and see
> >> >> how far stuff will go ..
> >> >>
> >> >> peace be upon all of you
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus
> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn when we fail..
> but
> >> >> >> > why
> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still at that par?
> we
> >> >> >> > live
> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL MIGHT has given
> >> >> >> > us...
> >> >> >> > we
> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, champion or not if
> you
> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you can actually
> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i may not speak
> for
> >> >> >> > all
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear failure, that
> >> >> >> we
> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer an option to
> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, discussion,
> roundtable,
> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if failure is
> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a complete
> >> >> >> > perfection
> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who doesn't right? my
> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort to make it
> >> >> >> > happen..
> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to think how ever
> you
> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever that you want it
> to
> >> >> >> > be...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus
> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal <
> azs...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven and over
> >> >> >> >>> again??
> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or "Industry
> Capable
> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need it? this is
> why
> >> >> >> >>> you
> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people like YOU.
> none
> >> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by those who
> have
> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those who need it
> and
> >> >> >> >>> work
> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals...
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, the "champions"
> >> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true perfection only
> >> >> >> >> happens
> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without failure only
> >> >> >> >> belongs
> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and fail, and
> learn
> >> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ
> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo.
> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a different
> >> >> >> >> angle.
> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea..
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> regards,
> >> >> >> >>> //rafe
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim
> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com>
> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys,
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate in what you
> do.
> >> >> >> >>>> This
> >> >> >> >>>> is
> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see and help make a
> >> >> >> >>>> difference
> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep striving for the best
> >> >> >> >>>> regardless
> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards achieving a shared
> >> >> >> >>>> goal.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the best.
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards,
> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja!
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil projek rumah
> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak
> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim
> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu
> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. dari situ kita
> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh
> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil
> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa
> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa kepada seorang
> >> >> >> >>>>>> world
> >> >> >> >>>>>> class
> >> >> >> >>>>>> open
> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga linuxvarisit sebagai
> >> >> >> >>>>>> program
> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis
> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere coe sebagai
> >> >> >> >>>>>> program
> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis
> >> >> >> >>>>>> di
> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea dan bias
> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri
> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan
> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami perlu take a
> >> >> >> >>>>>> step
> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward
> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, failures,
> heartaches,
> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes
> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab kami juga
> tidak
> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai
> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu belajar dari anda
> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua
> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama
> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is spammy!!!! Only one
> ?
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :)
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> )
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved in the first
> one
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at Saba arabic
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source enthusiasts,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many famous
> contributors
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :)
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited to help us.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and establishing as the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free makan!
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai????
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> --
> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device
> >> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
>
> >
>

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