Hi Marcus,
Your email account seems to kick back after last mail to u. So i will
use this instead. Thanks for the link u gave in it.
Yes, it was very interesting talking to you about your project for many
reasons:
1. It is a Malaysian development effort
2. It uses its own business model (saying its not FLOSS is not relevant
here. It is the business experience and insight that you bring that i
value)
3. We can enrich our own experience as to how best to replicate
skillsets locally.
Ok, i accept your point on post-uni developer training. We must make a
note to caveat that - no freshie training or join in during secondary
school level or younger as i alluded to about Azrul's weekend Java
course for kids.
Marcus wrote:
Malaysia does have its own sofware , the UBS accounting
and InternetNow MailServer :-) . InternetNow had fairly good success in
Malaysia, handful in Singapore and now working out a distribution deal
in Iran for the latest MailNow!5 and with USA's After logic.
What Inow don't have is branding and mentality advantage attributes to
our foregin competitors such as Merak, Mdaemon and well in some ways ,
MS Exchange.
As a developer in a company pushing locally developed software for
years in Malaysia (not project based, not customized one off
solutions), i guess the biggest challenge we face
is :
1. Matching salary Vs Multinational offers. You guys have any idea what
CodeMaster offer fresh grads...go take a peek.
2. Lack of System developers, (tons of webs developers though..)
3. No recognition from Gov so far, ok we won the PIKOM award and an
award from APMIITA (in my year apmiita first prize went to a kid who
did a football website, since then we decided
its not worth joining such awards)
I would want to apologize as Inow sofwares are not in Open Source, so
far in reality, none of our customers ask for the source nor bothered
about it. I had a talk with Red1 during the mygosscon BOF
and tried to learn as much as i can about how Open source helped him,
in some ways though, he is still unique since he is not just dling and
pushing what everyone else can do, he has somehow (despite not being a
developer!) end up as a head of the project. We have met a lot of
people with all kinds of emnity against us succeeding as local
software, some just put as on the wayside as "re-inventing the wheel",
some "no match for US products" but at the its the local reseller here
and corporate market welcome us the most.
As for competent developers, i doubt pumping 8k a month can make
anything out. Programming has always been a very individual choice and
talent. What can be done is maybe at the uni levels,
open up their standard and exposure, correct the wrong mentality that
programming is a beginner's job or "uncool" and put competitions that
matches against foreigners programmers. If one can't compare, one cant
understand.
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