though comes the issue of the teacher knowing what is python or ruby, then
also comes the issue of pressure from somewhere else. as even a lot of
company in malaysia don't use those,

yes i know i know, that is where osdc.my comes  in, to educate

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Azril Nazli Alias <[email protected]>wrote:

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