On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 5:21 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Paling senang, kekalkan ia percuma, and lakukannya demi masyarakat... > ikhlas... > Jadi macam Red Hat yang menjual support,bukan menjual sumber macam yang > hendak dilakukan My1OS.. haha alternatif masih banyak, saya yang akan > membuat versi My1OS percuma dan 98% akan menggunakan my1os yang percuma dari > yang "built-in-support" >
This is what I was talking about. "cetak rompak" FOSS..mencetak dan dicetak kembali. > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Haris bin Ali <ha...@qedx.com> wrote: >> >> afaik kalau dia jual kat retail store pun, as long as they make the >> source code available to buyers somehow they would not be in violation >> of the GPL. Ini untuk software yang bawah GPL jer la. lesen lain aku >> tak berapa tau sangat tapi lesen lain yang popular selalunya lagi >> kurang restriction kalau banding dengan GPL >> >> //ha...@qedx.com >> >> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > what licence did they use? Did they take out their money? in term of >> > what I >> > say [what you get free, must be available for free to others] because >> > I'm >> > refering to my1os going to sell their product to "retail store" [perhaps >> > I'm >> > wrong] I'm going to ask the my1os developer about what they're going to >> > do... >> > the Redhat offers sourcecode for sure and charge for compiled source >> > that >> > they give a Long Term Support.. >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah >> > <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> pls read your own web page: >> >> http://www.simplelinux.tk/p/courtesy-of-gnuorglicensesgplhtml.html >> >> >> >> "When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not >> >> price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you >> >> have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for >> >> them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you >> >> want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new >> >> free programs, and that you know you can do these things." >> >> >> >> >> >> pls refer to the redhat enterprise linux model >> >> >> >> does rhel 5.5 contain linux kernel which is gpl ? YES >> >> >> >> can you download a copy of rhel 5.5 without a valid subscription ? NO >> >> >> >> can you access the rhel 5.5 repo without a valid subscription ? NO >> >> >> >> do you have to pay to get a valid subscription ? YES >> >> >> >> does redhat make a profit ? YES >> >> >> >> Red Hat Reports Second Quarter Results - redhat.com | The World's ... >> >> >> >> 22 Sep 2010 - Red Hat, the world's leading provider of open source >> >> solutions and an S&P 500 company, ..... Non-GAAP gross profit, $186133, >> >> $156941, $363935, $306621 ... >> >> www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/Q2_2011.html - Cached >> >> >> >> Red Hat Reports Second Quarter Results - redhat.com | The World's ... >> >> >> >> 22 Sep 2010 - Red Hat, the world's leading provider of open source >> >> solutions and an S&P 500 company, ..... Non-GAAP gross profit, $186133, >> >> $156941, $363935, $306621 ... >> >> www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/Q2_2011.html - Cached >> >> >> >> >> >> Red Hat Q3 Profit Surges, In Line With Estimates - Update >> >> >> >> 2 days ago - Open source software solutions provider Red Hat, Inc., >> >> Tuesday reported a significant rise in profit for the third quarter as >> >> revenues grew 21%, ... >> >> www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=1512193 - Cached >> >> >> >> Red Hat Q1 Profit Rises 30% >> >> >> >> 22 Jun 2010 - Open source solutions provider Red Hat Inc., said Tuesday >> >> its first-quarter ... >> >> www.rttnews.com/Content/TopStories.aspx?Id=1341043 - Cached >> >> Show more results from rttnews.com >> >> >> >> Red Hat 3Q Profit Climbs 59% On Higher Sales, Margins - Story ... >> >> >> >> 1 day ago - Red Hat 3Q Profit Climbs 59% On Higher Sales, Margins >> >> Quickly >> >> understand and learn about Profit - Red Hat from your favorite sources >> >> with >> >> BuzzBox. >> >> www.buzzbox.com/news/2010-12-22/profit:red-hat/?clusterId... - Cached >> >> >> >> RHT Company Profile - Red Hat Inc Company Information >> >> >> >> 4 days ago - Red Hat profit slips, but sales rise 20%. 4:12 p.m. Sept. >> >> 22, >> >> 2010. - John Letzing. 11e990ee-a1de-4a1a-a539-2f5c09910d7b:215. Red Hat >> >> shares up 2% after Q2 ... >> >> www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/RHT/profile - Cached - Add to >> >> iGoogle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> you can't sell to people for downloads. that's why thousands of >> >>> mirrors >> >>> ready to serve. mainly are of open source software. That's why it's >> >>> cost >> >>> effective . you cannot sell open source software for your own >> >>> >> >>> use. http://www.simplelinux.tk/p/courtesy-of-gnuorglicensesgplhtml.html >> >>> the author must not read the Courtesy of GNU_GPL v3/v2. it's against >> >>> the >> >>> law for breaking the licence. that's why it's safe to put GNU/Linux >> >>> next to >> >>> your software name, always, for example simpleLinux GNU/Linux to show >> >>> that >> >>> it is completely free and modifiable. >> >>> what put get free, you give back free. not when we got free, but we >> >>> sell >> >>> to get profit. >> >>> selling cds are fine, but not selling it in the store where people >> >>> must >> >>> buy before can use, it's illegal. if people are prohibited to modify >> >>> it >> >>> source, you betrayed GNU_GPL v3/v2. it's more than just a piece of >> >>> junk. >> >>> if this continues, we will watch a never-ending dramas from the newbie >> >>> developer. >> >>> remember, Open Source always free... >> >>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah >> >>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> actually, boleh jual - for the cost of packaging, distributing, >> >>>> support, >> >>>> manuals, support services, hardware bundles, etc >> >>>> >> >>>> there are 2 parts to this : copyright and trademarks >> >>>> >> >>>> pls read this on copyright which allows for redistribution and >> >>>> derivative works >> >>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing >> >>>> >> >>>> Ubuntu 'main' and 'restricted' component licence policy >> >>>> >> >>>> All application software in both main and restricted must meet the >> >>>> following requirements: >> >>>> >> >>>> Must allow redistribution. Your right to sell or give away the >> >>>> software >> >>>> alone, or as part of an aggregate software distribution, is important >> >>>> because: >> >>>> >> >>>> You, the user, must be able to pass on any software you have received >> >>>> from Ubuntu in either source code or compiled form. >> >>>> >> >>>> While Ubuntu will not charge licence fees for this distribution, you >> >>>> might want to charge to print Ubuntu CDs, or create your own >> >>>> customised >> >>>> versions of Ubuntu which you sell, and should have the freedom to do >> >>>> so. >> >>>> >> >>>> but use of the ubuntu trademarks must follow the following >> >>>> guidelines: >> >>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy >> >>>> >> >>>> Permission from us is necessary to use any of the Trademarks under >> >>>> any >> >>>> circumstances other than those specifically permitted above. These >> >>>> include: >> >>>> >> >>>> Any commercial use. >> >>>> >> >>>> Use on or in relation to a software product that includes or is built >> >>>> on >> >>>> top of a product supplied by us, if there is any commercial intent >> >>>> associated with that product. >> >>>> >> >>>> Use in a domain name or URL. >> >>>> >> >>>> Use for merchandising purposes, e.g. on t-shirts and the like. >> >>>> >> >>>> Use of a name which includes the letters BUNTU in relation to >> >>>> computer >> >>>> hardware or software. >> >>>> >> >>>> Services relating to any of the above. >> >>>> >> >>>> jadi my1os boleh ambil the software from the main and restricted >> >>>> repos, >> >>>> repackage, buang all the ubuntu trademarks (and any other trademarks, >> >>>> kemudian start jual. for the software : tak boleh restrict >> >>>> modifications, >> >>>> tak boleh restrict redistribution, must allow access to source codes. >> >>>> for >> >>>> the trade marks and services boleh restrict modifications, boleh >> >>>> restrict >> >>>> redistribution (macam redhat : >> >>>> https://www.redhat.com/licenses/Enterprise_Agr_Singapore.pdf ) >> >>>> >> >>>> sekarang ni, kalau ada perasan my1os still using ubuntu trade marks >> >>>> boleh lah nasihatkan depa berdasarkan fakta pada links berkaitan. >> >>>> >> >>>> secara peribadi, saya harapkan mereka berjaya, kalau ada kesilapan >> >>>> kita >> >>>> patut bantu betulkan. kalau mereka berjaya dgn cara yg betul, bagus >> >>>> juga >> >>>> untuk seluruh komuniti. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> pergh, aku pun tak jual lesen aku, lesen aku kekal GNU/GPL v3 untuk >> >>>>> segala2 maklumat dan kandungan download ... Creative Common untuk >> >>>>> screenshot, dan Creative Share-Alike, MIT dan GNU_GPL v2 untuk >> >>>>> software >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:27 PM, ApOgEE <jerung...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Masalah kekurangan ilmu berkaitan GNU GPL >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar >> >>>>>> <bizkut...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Garfield WTF >> >>>>>>> <garfi...@debmal.my> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> > rasanye developer my1os tu newbie kot, sebab daru screenshot, >> >>>>>>> > dia >> >>>>>>> > tu xtau >> >>>>>>> > macam mane nak disablekan taskbar kat bawah gnome, & dia tu >> >>>>>>> > hanye >> >>>>>>> > tambah 1 >> >>>>>>> > applet baru yg mirip start button je... >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> biasalah mau jadi jutawan segera.sedap macam mee segera. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > -- >> >>>>>>> > GarfieldWTF >> >>>>>>> > Debian User Community (Malaysia) >> >>>>>>> > http://debmal.my >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > -- >> >>>>>>> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > Facebook Fan page >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> >>>>>>> > Google >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> >>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >> >>>>>>> > osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>>>> > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> >>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >> >>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> >>>>>>> http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-infomation >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Best Wishes, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> M. 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