Hi all. Mr Boh, I have never wrong about it because I work in Ministry Of Education and I never saw MQA officer during our meeting. I just wonder where do you saw the MOE logo on the banner. Even in my facebook, I never use any statement without evidence ;)
MQA is a agency under Ministry of Higher Education. p.s : If you think the two harimau logo on banner, it shows that MQA is one of the agency under The Government of Malaysia. The 2 harimau logo is called 'Jata Negara'. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Boh Yap <[email protected]> wrote: > hi, > > @tajul, > MQA is part of MoE, it sez so right on the banner of their website! > http://www.mqa.gov.my/ > Perhaps you should check out first b4 writing, this forum is not Facebook > ;-) > > @ghodnode > Thanks for your insightful opinion. I agree 'coding' is more an art > than a science and that passion counts, a lot. But on the point "We > don't ask why schools are turning out such poor quality ...(IT > personel)" it is very relevant in our context. > > In more open market driven economies, its the market's supply/demand > curves that determines the types of professions and numbers of > practising professionals. But Malaysia is hardly a true 'market' > driven economy, and IT (and MSC, CyberJaya, etc..) is an 'Industrial > Policy' - call it pumping in public funds (tax payers money) to > achieve a national agenda of building an IT industry. And in this > case, we are questioning how well that money is spent, and hence > educational instituitions are answerable, if anything consider it an > ROI (Return on Investment) of my money as a tax-payer. > > And I like this... ;-) "I have worked with people who were highly > educated, but largely incompetent." it clearly shows what has gone > wrong... > > I believe Edu can do more than just nurture, it can guide and inspire > (and perhaps lead to developing passion ?), especially with passionate > people helping from "outside" the ivory tower. > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:44 PM, red1 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thats the formula. Create the passion, you uncover the talent. > > > > On 3/3/11 5:16 PM, Hafiz Bhari wrote: > > > > Should use the formula. > > > > "Do what we love and love what we do". > > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Ghodmode <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi everyone. I want to offer my unique perspective. I've been working > in > >> the IT field since 1999 (or longer if you count my time in the US Army). > >> I've worked as support, network/server administrator, and programmer in > The > >> US, Malaysia, and New Zealand, but I don't have any formal IT education. > >> I'm American, but I have lived in Malaysia for several years. I have > almost > >> no interest in politics even though political developments often > indirectly > >> affect IT. > >> > >> The problem with IT education in Malaysia isn't really unique to > >> Malaysia. I have worked with people who were highly educated, but > largely > >> incompetent. I've worked with people who were competent, but bored... > not > >> interested in learning more. And I've worked with people who were > educated > >> in a different field, or not at all, but were very talented. Only on > very > >> rare occasions have I met someone who has been formally trained in IT, > does > >> what they were trained to do, and they are passionate about their work. > >> > >> Based on my experiences, formal education actually seems like a weakness > >> for those who want to be successful in the Information Technology field. > >> So, I think they we (the international IT community) are approaching it > >> wrong. > >> > >> This is a unique field. It really only requires some general education > to > >> get started, but the successful IT worker must be willing to learn > >> continuously throughout their entire career. Success in this field also > >> requires enthusiasm and passion that no school can provide. In this > sense, > >> it's more like an art than a science. > >> > >> As with a musician and a piano, or a painter and a blank canvas, sit the > >> right person down in front of a computer and they will use it to create > new > >> wonders and inspire the rest of the world. > >> > >> We don't ask why schools are turning out such poor quality musicians > >> (Justin Bieber, for example) or artists because the role of education in > the > >> arts is only to nurture existing potential. 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