Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

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IMHO if we are debating on govt policies, be they written or unwritten, it is still ok, because we are not creating falsehood nor lies, based on unfounded facts nor conjecture that implicate individuals who are merely govt servants following such policies. Now for govt servants, what about that? Once i met a senior govt official (name and org withheld to protect from GO, OSA, ISA, and other susahAs) who provided me inside info and urged me to raise an issue (sorry Rafe but i guess you are popular) MDec which he failed within his own division. I was curious, but he reiterated that as an NGO or NGI (indiividual rakyat) we have every right to raise concern, but they as govt servants cannot do so. And he cautioned that we have to raise it 'officially' meaning thru proper channels such as this OSDCY.my and not thru surat layang, hate mail or anonymous blogs. Still, we have to be fair, as even MDec falls under govt policy and they have an agenda like any other to priotise towards a big national level which has lots of outside forces at play. For us, we have to continue articulating as a pressure group. And of course allow govt agencies to play their roles as defined by the political masters that the democracy has voted them into power. But if we do not highlight issues, then the ruling govt can blame us for keeping silent and thus not withing their grasp to formulate the policies that we want. That is why i support OSDC.my as a whole but that does not mean i do not speak out what i feel to be of priority. I try to speak using nice words, but sometimes my keyboard get stuck at the F key. :) On 3/16/11 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok. if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to the official source. with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation or persons or project.... this mailing list is publicly searchable through google. Majlis Berbuka Puasa mdec Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim ...  - [ Translate this page ] 18 Sep 2009 ... Majlis Berbuka Puasa mdec Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak ... www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - Cached Flickr: linuxmalaysia's Photostream 9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010 Majlis Berbuka Puasa MDeC Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim 160909 by ... www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - Cached Show more results from flickr.com Get more discussion results Java is big! What is mdec doing about it? - OSDC.my Mailing List ... 28 Feb 2011 ... It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider mdec's existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua free lunch anyway ... groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... - Cached OSDC.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source Developers 22 Sep 2009 ... MDeC's Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with OSDC.my's Vice President The aim of OSDC.my is to unite local open source developers and their ... www.scribd.com/.../OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - Cached OSDC.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source developers 22 Sep 2009 ... The formation of the OSDC.my initiative is also part of the MDeC's plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th Economic Plan in the ... commtechasia.net/.../648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html - Cached for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <u...@umarzuki.org> wrote: Morning everyone, I found that there are a lot of information related to our government discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay? Just my 2 cents. --   -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information   MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011