Eric,

My time with community is borrowing time from, of my life with my
family and career. Its has its limit and its going to be over soon.

Its year 3 now I'm with the community, push in any ways that I could
do to make this community move and growth.

But sadly, we lack of leadership.

We can define any goals or roadmap or any professional ways of doing
things. But who the takers?

Fazli ??? - He is now busy with his office work as project manager.
Me ??? - My 8 hours work already taken toll on me and Im not as young as before.
E1 - He need to finish up his PHD and hopely will return to contribute
but dengarnya nak ke Dubai. :)

Others - Senyap aje...

We can plan and already has the plan and share it with all of you but no taker.

So what I'm doing now?

Provoking

In my own ways. Push issues thats can later taken up much more
seriously by others. May be not in this community by later or today or
later years. But I keep on push the ideas and plan thats we have plan.

I could not be a BASTARD. Its not me. I trust people, even you my
friend and I will not judge a person.

This community need leadership but sorry to say. I could not give
that... My borrowed time soon be over.

and before its over. I'll do anything thats I can to setup the
foundation right. I do agree with you Eric.

We need to focus.

Thank you.


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
<[email protected]> wrote:
> You guys perhaps misunderstood me.
>
> Artwork is just one of the more visible identity, with due respects to to
> ApOGEE's talents and hard work.
>
> What about goals? Mission Statements? Philosophy? - in short what are our
> game plan? What is the story we stick to if someone asks, "WTF is OSDC.my?".
> What is the 10-minute pitch we would sell to potential sponsors? What is the
> 5-minute pitch we sell to techies?
>
> If you want to do it right and be a respectable organisation, these things
> are "necessary evils". We can have as many Kopitiam/Mamak session as you
> want until the end of time, but if these things are not ironed out, it will
> just be a social organisation.
>
> Is that what OSDC.my will become?
>
> Be a bastard now and put your feet down. People respect you Haris. Good guys
> get all the sympathies, best wishes but can it propel and push things
> forward?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Team,
>>
>> Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have
>> discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip...
>>
>> Kelip-kelip as
>>
>> --- Apogee comment in FB
>>
>> MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya
>> walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada
>> lebih ramai... wahlau
>>
>> Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_125842900827482
>>
>> -------
>>
>> So all more feedback needed.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting?
>> > 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov
>> > project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we
>> > sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n
>> > company will do the job.(or any other idea :D )
>> > 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice
>> > or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot..
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Lets start at things that we can work out together
>> >>
>> >> 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.
>> >>
>> >> 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
>> >> Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)
>> >>
>> >> 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
>> >> key for our country innovation
>> >>
>> >> 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.
>> >>
>> >> 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in
>> >>> a
>> >>> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
>> >>> Eric
>> >>>
>>
>> --

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