Boris,

ASDT is still very much appreciated by the many of us who is not eligible for a free FDT license, and don't wanna shell of the €200 or what ever. U guys are doing great work. Also, great to hear that you are looking into ANTLR - it just keeps getting better.

Cheers,

  -michael










On 9/23/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I am working full time on a (hopefully) soon to be released
product (actually service) but this is an area of great interest to
me. ANTLR seems very interesting based on the homepage, so I am
downloading it now. I will definitely throw some spare cyles at this.

Regards
Hank




On 9/23/05, Martin Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well hank, im sure youre more than welcome to join ASDT :)
>
> this is exactly the issues that are being looked into at the moment.
>
> We are looking at using ANTLR as the parser generator
>
> http://www.antlr.org/
>
> which i think will provide us with a solid foundation for generating a
> parser, which can then give us the AST (abstract syntax tree), and of
> course a complete compiler if needed. :)
>
> Martin has made a start on the grammar (there is already a basic setup
> for ECMA-script available in antrl format) but we would dearly love more
> help.
>
> On a more general note, of course ASDT must 'compete' with FDT and Zorn,
> and i think it will do within time. Hopefully that time will be sooner
> rather than later.
> So, if anyone wants to make ASDT the tool you want it to be, help out in
> any way you can. Report bugs, desired features, workflow improvements,
> write documentation, just contribute brain power. Its not all about the
> coding :)
>
> thanks,
>
> Martin
>
>
> hank williams wrote:
> > Boris,
> >
> > Your posting raises some interesting questions.
> >
> > It seems to me that ASDT must compete with FDT and ultimately Zorn.
> >
> > In order to do that, the primary issue is developing an actionscript
> > parser that explores whole files and generates errors for an entire
> > file at a time (instead of one at a time)... quickly. This is
> > necessary so that the editor can show where all the errors are during
> > the edit cycle as does java eclipse, FDT, and presumably Zorn.
> >
> > I have not looked at the MTASC source becuase I initially failed at
> > getting OCAML setup (and I got lazy). But Nicolas has said that it
> > would be very hard to get MTASC to do this, as opposed to generating
> > only one error at a time. Nevertheless, it seems to me that this is a
> > critical missing piece in the Actionscript open source universe. Such
> > a codebase would be an anchor to any open source editor. The thing is,
> > this should be much easier than acutually doing a full MTASC since no
> > code generation is necessary, only parsing.
> >
> > Is ther a formal syntax BNF/LALR for a parser generator to generate
> > actionscript? It seems to me that someone (Nicolas perhaps) must have
> > done this work already? I was thinking, maybe since we are working in
> > eclipse, which is a java environment, it might be possible to take
> > Jack (the java version of Yacc) and create a grammar for actionscript,
> > so that anyone could create an actionscript compiler. There is no
> > reason that we shouldnt have full computer sciencey language tools
> > around Action/ECMA script.
> >
> > I have been thinking about this for a few weeks and I would love to
> > get a language tools discussion going regarding solid open source
> > Actionscript language building components so that we can make a full
> > suite of Actionscript language development tools in the way that such
> > things exist for other languages.
> >
> > Regards
> > Hank
> >
> > On 9/23/05, Boris BEAULANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I know FDT is a good product, I know FDT represent a lot of work, But I
> >>know that FDT isn't Open Source !
> >>And in this case it couldn't be an awesome gesture but a commercial
> >>gesture ... ;(
> >>
> >>I know ASDT isn't enough strong and complete face to FDT, but we work on
> >>it. I'm sorry for this Nico, I know all what you did for ASDT and that's
> >>why all this hurt me !
> >>
> >>Else ASDT work only on motivation of its team ... *if all OS flash
> >>developpers doesn't support an OS tool who will do it ?*
> >>
> >>If I'm wrong, please explain me !
> >>
> >>Bo (an angry guy behind his computer)
> >> http://asdt.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Thomas Wester wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thanks Nico. This is an awesome gesture.
> >>>
> >>>-Thomas
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Nico Zimmermann
> >>>*Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:54 AM
> >>>*To:* Open Source Flash Mailing List
> >>>*Subject:* AW: [osflash] FDT license
> >>>
> >>>Hey All!
> >>>
> >>>I am at low batterie status so I make it short.
> >>>All known OSFlashers should have received their keys now.
> >>>If there is any trouble or someone forgotten please mail
> >>>at [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >.
> >>>
> >>>Conference was great. I was wondering how many people did not
> >>>know MTASC, SWFMill or even Eclipse... Maybe this
> >>>changed now(I think so).
> >>>
> >>>Looking forward to the conference in Amsterdam:)
> >>>
> >>>Sorry for the delay... hope you did not get in any trouble...
> >>>
> >>>Cheers, Nico
> >>>
> >>>Powerflasher GmbH | Tel: +49(0)241 91880-230
> >>>
> >>>>Drehturm <      | Fax: +49(0)241 91880-239
> >>>
> >>>Belvedereallee5   | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>D-52070 Aachen    | http://www.powerflasher.de
> >>>< http://www.powerflasher.de/>
> >>>
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>*Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von Edwin van Rijkom
> >>>*Gesendet:* Di 20.09.2005 22:21
> >>>*An:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Open Source Flash Mailing List
> >>>*Betreff:* Re: [osflash] FDT license
> >>>
> >>>That sounds good. Thanks a lot Lars!
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>Edwin
> >>>
> >>>Lars Heinrich wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok.. I called Nico, he told me that he will contact you latest on
> >>>>monday. Because he´s on the roadshow he can´t do anything now.
> >>>>But after he´s back he will take a look on your request.
> >>>>
> >>>>Sorry it tooked us so long, there is no excuse for that... We are
> >>>>working on the problem ;-).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On 9/20/05, *Lars Heinrich* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>><mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>    Like Stefan told, Nico and Carlo are both on a roadshow across
> >>>>    germany. I will see what we can do for Edwin.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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