I am just going to chime in with this point. AS3 is interesting, and seems quite powerful, but realize that its Alpha. AS2/Flash 8 is where its at for at least the next nine months. I would not recommend getting sidetracked by a release of something so early. If all open-source flash projects jump on 8.5 because its cool/fast/etc, we will loose the here and now.
Again, this is not to slam AS3...its awesome, but you cannot field anything with it. MTASC is still the best compiler for AS2 out there for both speed and workflow reasons. I was chatting with Scott regarding when we think we will start porting ActionStep to AS3, and we agreed that it would be AFTER we stabilize a release on AS2 (months and months away). We want to be careful about committing to much resource to AS3 and loose site of the only platform that can be deployed on which is AS2 on Flash 7/8. If during the next six months Nicholas blows us away with his programatic creativity and it works well on the 8.5 VM, its well worth giving a try. Best, Rich On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Austin Haas wrote: > I really think this is a good discussion, so I'd like to keep it going > if that's ok. :) > > "There is no need for an alternative tool, which basically imitates > what > already exists." > > Well, to me, one of the great things about the open source version was > that people could do things like your MTASC hacks, where you were able > to customize the compiler. I know that you will probably continue with > wherever Nicolas is going with MTASC, but forking away from Macromedia > is definitely going to lose a lot of people. > > I also liked the debug messages from MTASC much better than the ones > from MMC. > > Another great thing about open source in general is that often > there are > some really dedicated people (e.g. Nicolas) who are constantly making > updates and improvements AND releasing them as soon as possible. > Contrast that with a big company that, in general, prioritizes > features > that will earn them more money, and rolls them up into a release a > year > away, which they charge $300 for an upgrade. > > I am doing Flash for commercial work, but we just started our > company a > few months ago with almost no money. Software is by far the biggest > expense for us (probably 80% or more), and MTASC was really a > saving grace. > > -austin > > Austin Haas > Pet Tomato, Inc. > http://www.pettomato.com > > Ralf Bokelberg wrote: > >> Partly i understand your worries. >> But if you really need to write ActionScript, because you are >> doing it >> commercially, you can easily buy a license of Flexbuilder and do so. >> There is no need for an alternative tool, which basically imitates >> what >> already exists. Or maybe somebody else implements OS AS3 - MTASC >> makes >> up a good foundation to learn from. >> >> Apart from that - open source is driven by personal interests. If >> Nicolas is interested in implementing a whole new plattform, no >> argument >> will change his mind. >> >> Cheers, >> Ralf. >> >> Allen, Christopher S. wrote: >> >> >> >>> Ralf, >>> >>> I don't want to come off sounding like I think the whole thing >>> that Nicholas is >>> going to do is crap, or that it's not innovative, quite the >>> opposite really. I >>> just think that this decision will have an impact on projects >>> like yours, >>> ActionStep, ASwing, etc..., and that we as Flash developers will >>> soon have less >>> choices for coding ActionScript. >>> >>> -Chris >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:osflash- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of Ralf Bokelberg >>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:22 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Open Source Flash Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [osflash] MTASC Future >>> >>> Couldn't you implement DENG on the nextgen MTASC and provide swfs >>> for >>> interested users? As far as i understood Nicolas, different swf >>> will be >>> able to communicate. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ralf >>> >>> Claus Wahlers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> As announced at OFLA today MTASC will unlikely support >>>>> ActionScript3. >>>>> The reason is quite simple. MTASC supporting AS3 + AVM2 will be >>>>> very >>>>> comparable to Macromedia Compiler provided with FlexBuilder2. >>>>> And only >>>>> having the "opensource" difference is not enough. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> as much as i like innovation, this very most likely means the >>>> sudden >>>> death of DENG. >>>> cheers, >>>> claus. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osflash mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osflash mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osflash mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> osflash mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
