What's a squelch? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: 06 December 2005 13:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Open Source Flash Mailing List Subject: Re: [osflash] An Aflax Javaflash Integration Demo
On 12/6/05, Luke Hubbard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I think if you were expecting an example you could view with a browser, you > might not get what javaflash is all about. You are right. I didnt get it. But the main point here is that for this stuff to grow, being clear about what you are doing is useful, unless the size of your audience is irrelevant. When I went to the Javaflash website, I still had really basic questions. But your screenweaver metaphor is helpful. Also, since most of us have java in our browsers, a clickable demo is totally possible. One such demo somewhere would replace zillions of words. If this was the javaflash list, it would be different. But I would bet most openflashers dont know much about javaflash and so when you are talking on a general list about a specific project, you will be much more successful if you assume limited knowledge in your audience. I see that the same email was sent to osflash and the javaflash list. Obviously, people subscribed to the javaflash list will get it. But the same terse email is less clear to a general list. I am not trying to squelch communications, but just to suggest that effective communications when you are leading a project can be incredibly powerful. I am a java programmer and a flash programmer that knew nothing about javaflash, and had I not written these emails I still wouldnt. I would have been a lost opportunity. Regards Hank. Think about it as a java version > of screenweaver. Its a way of wrapping the player in java. The email/code > shows how its possible to use aflax in javaflash (via rhino js engine). It > would have been nice to have a screenshot though. Personally I dont mind any > emails giving an update on what people are working on. > > -- Luke > > > On 12/6/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 12/6/05, Johan Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't totally agree Hank. > > > > > > > I am not sure what you could possibly disagree with in my statement. > > Do you disagree that one should describe what they are doing and > > provide example links in the email??? > > > > > I just took a look, with great interest I might add, on this page and > > > I'm impressed by this effort. They've made it clear this is early > > > alpha too. > > > > > > > Early alpha or beta, or pre operational is irrelevant to whether you > > can construct a clear email. > > > > There may be a number of people who are involved in what he is doing > > and "get it" without any explanation. Maybe I am not smart enough but > > with the info he provided in that email, I am not among them. > > > > I dont see any basis for disagreement unless you are just saying that > > there is really plenty of info there and demos and feature > > descriptions are unnecessary. > > > > > Check out this page and see for yourself: > > > > > > http://www.aflax.org/#demos > > > > > > > the aflax page is interesting, but his email was about **** > > JAVAFLASH***, and all of my questions are about that. > > > > > Click on any of the examples and view the source! > > > > > > This are the steps: > > > > > > 1) Add a flash bootstrap > > > 2) Code some Javascript > > > 3) Voila your swf is done! Without using the IDE or anything else. > > > > > > > Again... the email is about javaflash. > > > > > > Regards > > Hank > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > /Johan > > > > > > On 12/6/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > Steven, > > > > > > > > Your email suggests a bunch of concepts that are totally unclear to > > > > me, eg javaflash, and there is no explanation of what your demo does, > > > > and no link to anything running. > > > > > > > > FWIW if you want to demo something, the best way is a simple link to > > > > the running thing or something that *shows* what your thing does. If > > > > this is not possible because the thing you are doing is too low level > > > > (like a sorting algorithm or something) then you should provide a > > > > simple clear explanation of what it is that your thing does. All your > > > > email provides is a complex description of some internals only > > > > relevant to someone who is already familiar with your project, and a > > > > description of some incredibly geeky installation instructions. > > > > > > > > Perhaps your goal was only to speak to a few people who you already > > > > know or who already know your work, but in that case it doesnt seem > > > > like using the general mailing list would be appropriate. > > > > > > > > In any case, I presume that you would like people to check out your > > > > stuff, and if you do, a demo link and some clear description of what > > > > it does and the benefits would be great. > > > > > > > > By the way I did also click on the javaflash wiki link where I also > > > > couldnt find any example links, and I was unclear as to whether you > > > > have just implemented a java container for the flash plugin, or you > > > > are claiming to have re-implemented flash. You talk about supporting > > > > all the features of flash 8 which isnt relevant if you have just > > > > implemented a container since the feature set is defined by the flash > > > > player. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, Steven Gong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > I have just made an interesting Aflax Javaflash integration demo. > Thanks to > > > > > the power of Rhino, I didn't do any extra work to enable this. :-) > > > > > The demo is on the trunk in > > > > > > http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/src/java/sjtu/dctc /wonder/javaflash/demo/AflaxDemo.java > > > > > > > > > > Some modifications to Aflax are needed to in order to make it work > in > > > > > Javaflash: > > > > > > > > > > Firstly, the original Aflax library 0.33 uses 'callback' parameter > in url to > > > > > decide the callback but it does not work locally, so we sticked the > callback > > > > > to 'main'. This needs to modify aflax.as and we have provided a > modified > > > > > version of swf in > > > > > > http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/misc/Aflax-JF.swf > > > > > and the diff of as in > > > > > > http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/misc/aflax.as.diff > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you need to modify the callback name in examples to 'main' > which > > > > > in some cases was 'go'. > > > > > > > > > > Finally, you need to copy aflax.js into $JAVAFLASH_HOME/misc > > > > > The main class needs one parameter for the location of your js file. > For > > > > > example, the example 'drawing2' of Aflax has a js file > 'drawing2.js'. You > > > > > need to copy the drawing2.js somewhere, modify it and set up the > location of > > > > > it to the parameter. > > > > > > > > > > You are done here. But that will be more. You can add Java calls to > JS now. > > > > > Enjoy! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > NOTICE: Examples that use extra js libs and HTML DOM methods are not > > > > > supported in Javaflash and those examples may not work properly. If > you want > > > > > to run the video example, you need to copy the flv file to a > location and > > > > > modify the path in JS to be relative to the location of > Aflax-JF.swf. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Steven Gong > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > osflash mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > osflash mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > osflash mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > osflash mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
