> However, there seems to be the assumption developing that because we > have not specifically blessed some projects, that somehow that lessens > our commitment / support to the open source Flash community. >
Mike, you say this as though you have no idea how this happened. On October 25th the following exchange occurred. ----------------------------------------------------- Thomas Wester wrote: > Thanks for the heads up Aral. > > However I fail to see a clear connection with the MTASC future > discussion. The Red5 or amfphp projects have no issues with > deconstruction the AMF protocol I can't see how deconstructing a f8.5 > .swf is any different. > ----------------------------------------------------- Then you responded ----------------------------------------------------- Why do you assume they have no issues? mike chambers ----------------------------------------------------- You never followed up as to whether you or Macromedia felt that amfphp or red5 are doing something illegal. This is called FUD. You create fear without taking a position. A kind of "do this at your own risk" positioning. And now to claim full support without clarification on these critical issues seems a bit *ahem* disingenuous. Regards Hank > Tim Beynart wrote: > > David Mendels spoke to a Flex class I attended in Boston a few weeks > > ago, and was eloquent and supportive in his discussions of OS as it > > relates to Macrodobe's goals. While the details are up to him to > > discuss, I came away with the impression that he and his company have a > > progressive and open minded approach to the OS community. > > > > P.S. David, I meant no offense with my comment about MX2004 > > documentation ;-) > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Tim Beynart > > Athens, GA, USA > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *On Behalf Of *David Mendels > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:08 AM > > *To:* Open Source Flash Mailing List > > *Subject:* Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com site Lately? > > > > Hi, > > > > to be clear, I meant this in the sense of "topics". We have ongoing > > discussions about how we work with the OS community, what we should open > > source, what we should publish, etc. > > > > -David > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Freddie(r) Cristalab > > *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 10:52 PM > > *To:* Open Source Flash Mailing List > > *Subject:* Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com site Lately? > > > > issues? > > > > 2005/12/5, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am not aware of any specific plans in the near term, but Kevin > > (and I > > and others) are continuing discussing a number of issues related to > > Flash and Open Source with our new Adobe colleagues. > > > > _David > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Richard Kilmer > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:21 PM > > > To: Open Source Flash Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com > > <http://Macromedia.com> site Lately? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2005, at 6:22 PM, John Grden wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Dave, we'd really like to hear from Adobe about there > > > stance on OS > > > > - are they planning to reach out to the community in anyway > > > real soon? > > > > > > Adobe has opened their ASL stuff to open-source: > > > > > > http://opensource.adobe.com/ > > > > > > From the abstract: > > > > > > This document serves as an overview to the Adobe Source > > > Libraries (ASL). The goal of ASL is to develop the technology > > > necessary to construct commercial applications by assembling > > > generic algorithms through declarative descriptions. > > > > > > The first two significant libraries in ASL are known as Adam > > > and Eve. > > > They are components for modeling the human interface > > > appearance and behavior in a software application. Adam and > > > Eve are described along with related libraries. > > > > > > ASL is a project within the Adobe Software Technology Lab > > > (STLab); a research group chartered with increasing developer > > > productivity and software quality through better technologies > > > and education. > > > > > > Adobe Begin is a sample application aimed at implementing the > > > ideas expressed herein. A Widget Reference is available to > > > assist users in the creation of dialogs. There are also many > > > prebuilt dialogs provided from which you can learn by example. > > > > > > > > > -rich > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/5/05, David Mendels <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am still around too :) (At Macromedia Kevin and I ran the > > Flash > > > > Player, Flex, ColdFusion, Flash authoring and Dreamweaver > > product > > > > lines....at Adobe, I run the Flex product line, ColdFusion, > > > and Adobe > > > > LiveCycle). Tom Hale is still around too...his team builds > > > Breeze and > > > > Flash Media Server and now he also runs Acrobat. I think > > > you will see > > > > a LOT of familiar names at Adobe. > > > > > > > > Just starting to talk with folks there about open source.... > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > David > > > > Adobe > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:osflash- > > <mailto:osflash-> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf > > Of Jake Freeberg > > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:11 PM > > > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [osflash] Anyone seen the Macromedia.com > > <http://Macromedia.com> site Lately? > > > > > > > > I'd hope that there really is no need for any discussion of > > this in > > > > the Flash Community, but we're now Adobe Developers, not > > Macromedia > > > > Developers. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried to do a little reading, but does anyone want to talk > > > > about what this might mean for open source Flash? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Lynch is still around, but did we loose anyone in > > this merger? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > osflash mailing list > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > John Grden - Blitz > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > osflash mailing list > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > osflash mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > osflash mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Freddie(r) Cristalab > > http://www.cristalab.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > osflash mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
