unbelievable, that's great news !!!

francis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Mendels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Open Source Flash Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:26 AM
Subject: [osflash] Free compiler (was FW: [Fwd: Re: MTASC Future])


> Hi,
> 
> A few months ago, Claus wrote on this list: "unless macromedia releases
> their compiler for free (unlikely)"
> 
> I replied:  ""or unless macromedia releases their compiler for free
> (unlikely)"  I won't say this is or is not likely, but I would guess
> that much of what we have released lately (a public alpha, a cmd line
> compiler, an eclipse based tool, the Flex framework with that tool, etc)
> would have been considered "unlikely" by many even a few weeks ago, and
> yet here they are.  Your guess is pretty reasonable here, but we like
> surprising ourselves too :)"
> 
> Well, I couldn't be more specific at the time, but I am pleased to let
> folks know now that we are indeed releasing the compiler and framework
> and limited version of the FES server for free:
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060201/20060131006223.html?.v=1  -;)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> David
> Adobe
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [osflash] MTASC Future
>> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:43:56 +0200
>> From: Claus Wahlers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],        Open Source Flash Mailing List 
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: Open Source Flash Mailing List <[email protected]>
>> References: 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> >  It's unfortunate to hear this. Is this because you are 
>> thinking that 
>> > too much of the syntax would need to change? Or is it more 
>> because you 
>> > would need compatability with other flash libraries to make 
>> it worthwhile to do?
>> > Or something else?
>> >
>> >  Based on what Nicolas has been doing so far, changes wouldn't be 
>> > frivolous and largely for the better, but I understand that 
>> often the 
>> > reliability of compatability is the major driving force for 
>> a library. 
>> > I'm just asking so that I understand if that's what it is.
>> 
>> i planned to start developing DENG2 end of this year. this 
>> would have been no problem, i can start developing with 
>> macromedias tools today, and later, when MTASC for AS3 would 
>> have been available, switch, as we did with DENG1 (first 
>> Flash MX, then Kinetic Fusion).
>> 
>> now i have to wait until MTASC for [xxx] becomes available 
>> *and* becomes mature enough for it's bytecode to run 
>> seamlessly on the 8.5 player. i can't forsee when this will 
>> be the case. in any case, i have to wait, because i won't 
>> rewrite DENG a third time. the problem is that i don't know 
>> how much longer i can wait, because then i may focus on 
>> something else i spend my free time on.
>> 
>> i also can't rely on the MMC alone, because my contributors 
>> (who are not "flashers") are never going to buy it. i need an 
>> open source compiler. i can't tell my contributors to buy a 
>> compiler to compile code they gracefully contribute, and DENG 
>> contributors are hard enough to find.
>> 
>> unless i find some angel investment, or unless macromedia 
>> releases their compiler for free (unlikely), there is not 
>> much of a chance i start porting DENG using macromedia tools 
>> alone (this would probably become a one-man-show then, as in 
>> the flash developer world DENG is of not much interest). i 
>> lost a lot of money developing DENG1 already (2 years 
>> fulltime), and this definately won't happen again.
>> 
>> summarizing, there is a small chance i'm going to do it, but 
>> only a very small one, depending on what happens in the 
>> future, which i'm unable to forsee at this point..
>> cheers,
>> claus.
>> 
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