I'm not judging on design but features. As far as I know this is the
first product to allow this kind of thing in a generalized way. You
might think it is "dizzying", but your average user might say the same
thing more stridently about the macromedia documentation.

I have often thought it would be cool to create a web tool for
building cool flash stuff through a wysiwig kind of UI. Also are you
talking about the website or the actual tools, which I must admit I
did not actually try.

Regards
Hank

On 2/23/06, Tim Scollick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great product???
>
> Anyone that has a site that looks like this in 2006 should be paying
> me a license fee to look at it.  I'm dizzy.
>
> http://balthaser.com/builder/fx_boot.asp
>
>
> On 2/23/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok, so I have now looked at the balthaser website and I do think they
> > are claiming any kind of a download into the browser cache, which
> > would inlcude javascript.
> >
> > This is hilarious.
> >
> > But this patent, as they seem to be interpreting it, is obviously
> > totally unenforceable.
> >
> > They do seem to have a great product/service, but their patent
> > application is incredibly naive.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hank
> >
> > On 2/23/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Just to be clear, the patent is not for rich media apps as a whole.
> > > The patent is for creating rich media apps over the internet. For
> > > example a website where you create "rich media apps" via a web site.
> > > So this is *might*, be a problem for web sites like blogger, for
> > > example.
> > >
> > > But the problem is that first claim, which is kind of the anchor claim
> > > makes a distinction for  apps that are downloaded to the "remote" or
> > > client computer. In the age of JavaScript apps, does everything that
> > > uses javascript to create custom account websites infringe? If they
> > > intend to claim that javascript websites of this type all infringe,
> > > then I am sure there were websites in 2001 that used javascript that
> > > had account customization, so this could be easily invalidated.
> > >
> > > If they are trying to say that a real full application is downloaded,
> > > as opposed to being accessed via the web browser, then  I suspect
> > > there is no prior art. I doubt there were java, flash, or c++
> > > standalone apps being built by creating configurations through a web
> > > browser in 2001. The truth is that very little of this is happening
> > > today, so if this is what they are claiming it doesnt effect many
> > > people.
> > >
> > > I am a big defender of the importance of patents if not the
> > > implementation of the law via the patent office. The problem is that
> > > the people that decide are human and imperfect. In my cursory review,
> > > this patent is unclear, which patents often are. Unfortunately, the
> > > definiton of "downloading to remote computer" is unclear which makes
> > > it difficult to determine the scope.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Hank
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/23/06, Aral Balkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >  I just set up a page on OSFlash that we can use to gather prior art on
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery
> > > >
> > > > If you have anything to contribute, please feel free to add to it.
> > > >
> > > > Blog post on new page:
> > > > http://www.flashant.org/index.php?p=540&more=1&c=1
> > > >
> > > > Aral
> > > >
> > > > Philippe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >This is just ridiculous and a shame.
> > > > ><snip>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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