Is this protocol implemented over http too?
On 9/14/06, Peter Hall <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Using only Remoting (or any http-based service), you have to poll the
service for changes. With red5 or FMS/FDS, the server can send changes
when they occur (push, not pull), which means the changes get to the
client faster, and the client isn't making redundant calls to the
server for changes that haven't happened.
Peter
On 9/15/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Complementing my last post: How difficult/different would it be to implement
> a chat entirely with AMF0 (Flash Remoting) compared to Red5 or XMLSocket? I
> think this pretty much summarizes my doubt :)
>
>
> On 9/14/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks a lot for the valuable reply Chris!
> >
> > What I don't understand though is this uni-direcional/bi-directional
> thing, I'm not that good in network socket programming after all, all I have
> used was Flash Remoting (which is unidirecional if I understood this concept
> right).
> >
> > By bi-direcional I mean something such FMS where you data get sent to the
> app by the server (pull method?)
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> >
> > Marcelo.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/06, Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > Marcelo,
> > >
> > > XMLSocket is bidirectional. It's a Socket afterall. Bob, might be
> > > right that it's possibly overkill to use Red5 for a chat application.
> > > You may want to look at Jive Software's Wildfire:
> > > http://jivesoftware.org/ as a good choice. It's a Jabber/XMPP
> > > implementation that also has a really good Flash library for the XMPP
> > > protocol. This gives you much of the typical chat infrastructure right
> > > off the bat. I used this for an application a little while back, and
> > > it was really excellent.
> > >
> > > However, if it's a room based chat that you want, take a look at the
> > > FITC example that comes with Red5. We have a simple text based chat
> > > that's part of the video conferencing application.
> > >
> > > There's also another guy on the Red5 list that is looking to hook up
> > > Red5 to an XMPP server, so you may want to discuss with him what he's
> > > doing over on the Red5 list.
> > >
> > > I hope that some of this information helps you out.
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > > On 9/14/06, Johannes Nel < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > yes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/14/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey bob... this XMLSocket technique is bi-direcional?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/14/06, Bob Ippolito < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > On 9/14/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > On my last project I need to implement a chat system. However, I'm
> > > > really
> > > > > > not sure about the technologies involved. I know I can do the
> "refresh
> > > > > > trick" (pull method?) where the application keeps pinging the
> server to
> > > > see
> > > > > > if there is new data available. I also know that there are other
> more
> > > > > > efficient solutions such as the one used by FMS or FDS, and here's
> my
> > > > doubt
> > > > > > - what is this technology about (JMS?) ? Does it work over http?
> How
> > > > does
> > > > > > that work after all?
> > > > >
> > > > > Creating an XMLSocket server for Flash 5+ is trivial. People have
> been
> > > > > making chat servers and clients with that combination for at least 5
> > > > > years now (my first was in 2001), you should have no problem finding
> > > > > information on the topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I would steer clear of Red5 for this, there are more
> mature
> > > > > and easier to debug options available to you for this kind of
> > > > > application.
> > > > >
> > > > > -bob
> > > > >
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