This was not meant as a means to say hey you give or else.

It was meant as a means to help provide for projects that had dreams and just 
wanted to see them become a reality. It is by no means a full income just a 
way for the community to say we thank you for all your hard work, I hope that 
this helps in the cause.

If you don't like the idea for some personal reason fine. I am going to start 
doing it each month as my way of saying thank you. It would be nice if the 
Open Source World was known as a good place to be where people care for one 
another but the reality is is there are lots of very harsh nasty people in 
open source that have no intention on helping others they do it for tottally 
different reasons. If you would like proof just hang around some open source 
project irc channels. You will see what I mean.

I for one think that it could work very well and am going to start by example.

I also don't think the way some other people are thinkin here. My mind does 
not click into how are they spending the money mode. This is not an elected 
Government. We are talking about in most cases hard working volunteers. I 
don't care how they spend that money consider it earned. Any money I donate 
feel free to do with it as you please. If anyone ever for whatever reason 
wants reports from me about money that was given to me, please don't give it 
because I am not telling you. There are just areas that people should learn 
to get out of.

Thanks for your time.

P.S. I donate my time and efforts as well. Why does this mean I have to stop 
there. Programming is just one of the pieces.

On Friday 20 October 2006 6:55 pm, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> On 10/20/06, Ray Chuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 10/21/06, Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Some of us are already spending our time producing open source
> > > software. The time spent on this is far more valuable than any
> > > monetary contribution (to the contributor and to the community).
> > >
> > > It is important for people who are merely consumers of the software to
> > > help out with bug reports, community building, donations, etc. but I
> > > think it's a bit much to guilt developers into spending money on
> > > infrastructure. I'm definitely for spending money getting features
> > > that I want or need faster, but I don't see the point in paying just
> > > to "show support" when I'm already writing code.
> >
> > I don't think he means that *everyone* who uses osflash must feel
> > obliged to donate, because not everyone will have that (monetary)
> > capability. There should be a channel for people who *want* to pay,
> > and this payment should go to the infrastructure only (my take).
>
> Sure, but it should be clear where the money is going and what it's
> intended to be used for. People new to the community may think that
> donations go towards supporting the authors of open source Flash
> stuff, where it's just going to the infrastructure of the site.
>
> > Although contributing code is one way of contributing, it should not
> > be used as an excuse for not supporting a worthy cause if one has the
> > means. Write code for the sake of it, not as a means of justifying a
> > rejection of monetary contribution.
>
> That's VERY different from what I said.
>
> -bob
>
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