Hi all, hi Robert, > for Windows we could generate an .msi installer
If CMake can do that, I'll open a bottle of Champagne! :) That would be great to directly generate an installer for each platform... But to end up the discussion, I'll say, until we got a real installer (which is the best solution), that: - Tweaking the CMake script to add special DLLs in the tar.gz is a bad idea. DLLs should thus not be added in the archive. - There should be a note and a link on the dowload page (and maybe in a README as J-S suggested). I suggest Robert (or anyone having write access to this page) to add, after the "Windows Visual Studio 8 packages" the following wiki text: " - Requires the MSVC 2005 SP1 redistributables for your platform ([http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=200b2fd9-ae1a-4a14-984d-389c36f85647 x86], [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=eb4ebe2d-33c0-4a47-9dd4-b9a6d7bd44da x64] or [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=747aad7c-5d6b-4432-8186-85df93dd51a9 IA64]" And the same for 2008 packages (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a5c84275-3b97-4ab7-a40d-3802b2af5fc2 (x86), http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ba9257ca-337f-4b40-8c14-157cfdffee4e (x64), http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=dcc211e6-ab82-41d6-8dec-c79937393fe8 (IA64)). Is that okay for everyone? Sukender PVLE - Lightweight cross-platform game engine - http://pvle.sourceforge.net/ Le Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:27:35 +0100, Jean-Sébastien Guay <[email protected]> a écrit: > Hi Philip, > > I'll defer to others (Robert) for the decision, but I don't agree with > your point of view. I think the redist is as close to a set of system > DLLs as it can be without being on the actual Windows installation CD, > so I think there's no point in putting copies of it everywhere on your > system. > >> Personally I would trade the whopping 1.6 MB this would take up for the >> assurance that the binaries will work on all machines. > > 1.6MB per project, per instance of the binaries, per... That's the > point, they're meant to be system-wide, not all over the system. > >> Of course if you want an end-user's first experience running osgviewer to >> view some model they found online to be a cryptic error message, then by all >> means leave things the way they are. > > OSG is not an end-user app. It's a library which you'll use to develop > other apps. If you downloaded the binary packages, it's either because > you wanted to evaluate it for possible use in your project, or you want > to use it in an existing project (perhaps in place of a previous version). > >> Unfortunately, not every first time user of OSG is going to have MSVC >> installed or the runtime libraries installed. > > A note in the readme should suffice. We can even have a special readme > that we only include in the Windows binary packages. As I said, if they > want to do almost anything else on the machine they'll need the redist, > so whether OSG is the reason they install it or anything else makes > little difference. In all likelyhood they'll have Visual Studio > installed anyways... So I think we're arguing about a minority of users. > > What we might consider doing would be, instead of generating tarballs, > for Windows we could generate an .msi installer that would install the > runtime correctly if needed (like most apps do). We could even generate > both, and make it clear that if you download the tarball you need the > runtime installed already. > >> There is no disadvantage to including the runtime DLLs aside from an extra 4 >> files and 1.6MB of space used. I think this is really a no brainer. > > There is no disadvantage to not including the runtime DLLs. Period. And > we don't pollute the system with copies of DLLs that will be installed > to the system directories by some other app sooner or later. > > Honestly, if there was a way for me to have one version of libpng, > libjpeg, etc. like on a Linux box, installed system-wide, I'd do that. > Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that on Windows. But at least we can > keep the dependencies we need to ship to a minimum. > > J-S _______________________________________________ osg-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
