Hi Ed, You don't seem to have the threads on this topic. The names are key to tracking who's saying what over time. If you can't do this then you can properly hold a conservation. If you are in crowded room and you wish to address someone you don't just shout out to everybody, you specifically address who you want to talk to, you need a name to do. Also when someones says something in this crowded room and you don't know who said it how are you to reply? How are you to remember what they've said previously or what you've said to them previously. Once you loose names you loose a fundamental part of how communication works, it breaks down.
This is what are trying to do is stopping communication breaking down, prevent it from becoming too difficult to us to use. And please don't go adopting a name that takes the mikey. If you can't be civil then it only take me a minute to unsubscribe you. Robert. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Not trying to be argumentative here, but... > > I am not being dishonest about who I am... Ed. But that is all I wish to > reveal for very good reasons. I think it is possible to communicate with > others without them knowing your full name, or any part of your name. The > communication is in the conversation, not in the name you tag on at the end. > As for free support requiring users to jump through this hoop... Ok, your > project your choice. But, how about a little more slack on this, > considering you have a pretty large user base, all of whom seem to be more > than willing to help test new features, deploy OSG into their systems, labs, > etc, thereby propagating it throughout the community. I think it is a > two-way street. Just my $0.02. > > Definitely Ed > > Quoting Robert Osfield <[email protected]>: > >> Hi ?? >> >> The key is that you adopt a consistent online personal that others can >> relate it. Not adopting some form of human name is crap for everybody >> else who interacts with you. >> >> At personal level I find it obnoxious that people are not always >> honest about who they are, but that's me. I do realize that some may >> wish to remain anonymous and sometimes there might even be actual >> valid reasons for it, it doesn't make like this type of deceit, but it >> does mean that I have to accept end users choice to remain anonymous. >> While accepting anonymity doesn't mean a free pass to come up with >> any combination of random key combinations for an online identity. >> >> Remember you are trying to communicate with real human beings, if you >> want them to help you then you have to make the effort to communicate >> in a form that is something that others can relate to. If you want >> free support then this is the hurdle you need to jump for mailing >> lists users and forum users - it really isn't much of hurdle, if you >> want anonymity then all you need to do is come up with an name for >> your alter ego and stick with this. >> >> Robert. >> >> >> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Does this apply to the mailing list or just the forum? I would like to >>> object to this if it applies to the mailing list. I don't specify my >>> full >>> name for a very good reason. The type of work I am doing is >>> proprietary/sensitive and don't want any questions I ask, even though I >>> try >>> to ask generic enough questions, to reveal what I am doing, or how I am >>> doing it, and it be traceable to the company and my customer. It would >>> not >>> be a good thing for anyone on my side. If someone wants to try to track >>> me >>> down through my email, well, I can only do so much, with out considerable >>> more effort, but I do what I can. >>> >>> Ed (or maybe, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Thomas, John, Freddy, or....) >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Art Tevs <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hello dear forum users, >>>> >>>> in order to establish a nice etiquette in our community, we have >>>> decided >>>> to suspend user accounts which do not correspond to forum's rules. The >>>> main >>>> reason is that a lot of forum users don't have valid real names >>>> specified. >>>> The problem in that is, that your posts are also visible by the mailing >>>> list members and that more or less blind kind of conversation isn't >>>> appropriate for our community. Please take a look into this thread, >>>> written >>>> by Robert Osfield: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=2498 >>>> to >>>> see what I mean!!! >>>> >>>> So, user accounts who's real names are either not full (by full we >>>> understand First and Last name) or are of some cryptic nature (e.g. >>>> XMen, >>>> 3D Master, etc) will be put into moderation queue by me in the next >>>> hours. >>>> Messages posted by moderated/suspended accounts are not visible and >>>> also >>>> not forwarded to the mailing list, until they get approved by >>>> moderatos. >>>> Hence you still able to post, however until you do not correct your >>>> profile >>>> to match the forum rules (http://forum.openscenegraph.org/rules.php) >>>> your >>>> messages will not be visible by other members of our community. >>>> Hence if you like to join us, you are asked to follow the netiquette >>>> established in many years of mailing list era. >>>> >>>> So again: >>>> - you have to specify a valid real name in your profile. Valid real >>>> name >>>> is of type "First Last" name, for example "John McCourkey", "Alice >>>> Smith", >>>> etc... >>>> - Names with more than 2 words are allowed, e.g. "Hans Peter Maier". >>>> - If it is not appropriate to have such names in your culture or you >>>> want to preserve some kind of anonymity, then please use a pseudonym >>>> (which >>>> match the both previous points!!!), however use it persistently in all >>>> your >>>> communications within our community. >>>> - you can disable "Always show my realname" in your profile settings, >>>> then your name wouldn't be visible on the forum and will also not be >>>> indexed by Google etc when indexing the forum page! However it will >>>> still >>>> be used in mails sent to the mailing list, so this is the same level of >>>> anonymity as if you have used mailing list only >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you and sorry for such circumstances >>>> Art >>>> >>>> P.S. Users who recieve an email with subject "Your account on >>>> OpenSceneGraph Forum is now moderated/suspended" are landed on the >>>> moderation queue. So they are asked to correct their profiles! >>>> >>>> ------------------ >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=11678#11678 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osg-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osg-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> osg-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > osg-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org > _______________________________________________ osg-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
