On Feb 14, 2010, at 4:31, Robert Osfield <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Bruce,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Bruce Wheaton <[email protected]> wrote:
The Present3D wiki asks for contributors. If it would be acceptable for a
GUI to be written in juce then

I'm not familiar with Juce.  Why Juce rather than other GUI toolkits?

No reason. Qt may be better. Last time I evaluated it, I found it counter-intuitive, cheesy looking (results) and crazy expensive - juce seemed the exact opposite. I'm working in juce and would be willing to make a version to share.

W.r.t license Present3D is GPL, while osgPresentation and the p3d
plugin that provide the bulk f the functionality are OSGPL.

I'll have to look at which parts are GPL, whether the rest is usuable without it.

I terms of functionality Present3D itself my plans has been to
refactor osgPresentation to provide a better object model and then
scripting on top of this, and have GUI elements that sit on top of
this for create/editing presentation objects.  The GUI elements would
be a mix of fully 3D elements using osgWidget/osgManipulator and 2D
elements such as file browsers.  Present3D is used extensively as
immersive (stereo) presentation tool, so being able to stay in fully
immersive (i.e. not 2D elements at all) is important when fine tuning
a presentation.

3d GUI is great, but my intended audience is way different - 3d on a large flat single screen for a medium to large passive audience. The creators of presentations would be working mainly in existing 2d tools, only dropping into 3D to make the final composition, and for sufficiently long periods that 3d would have to be optional in the interface.

I would use an offshoot of the code commerically.

If we can get the osgPresentation layer right and avoid too much
deviation ontop of this hopefully we'd be able to have a family of
presentation tools that would be pretty compatible with each other.
If some of these are commercial then great, especially if they can
drive forward the osgPresentation layer and provide better tools for
generating content.

It sounds like we have two tools but one format would work. I'll look through the example doc and source code when I get a chance.

Bruce

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