Hi,

thank you for the very detailed answer, it was very useful. I experienced
problem during using Equinox from Pax Exam or Eclipse Libra when the
blueprint API was twice in the classpath during system start. It is a bit
random to reproduce but with the new knowledge I will try go deeper to the
problem. This may be a problem of Equinox then.

Thanks and regards,
Balazs Zsoldos
Software Architect
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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:

> The Compendium JAR is intended to contain all of the Compendium (i.e.
> non-core) OSGi APIs. However the latest Enterprise spec is newer later than
> the latest Compendium (4.2), which is the reason why it contains additional
> APIs that are not yet in the Compendium. The Compendium 4.3 JAR, when it
> becomes available, will contain all of the Enterprise APIs.
>
> I disagree with Holger here about the bundling. I don't see a problem
> with the Compendium bundle containing many unrelated packages, or with
> deploying that bundle into the runtime; although they do contain multiple
> packages that will be typically unused, those packages do not have any
> dependencies and they are independently versioned.
>
> Regarding the error you referenced in your original email... bundle
> activating (starting) has nothing to do with resolution, therefore it is
> irrelevant what order you start these bundles in. However if you install
> *and resolve* them individually then you can end up with a split
> class-space. This is always the case if you install some bundles, resolve
> them, and then later install and resolve again.
>
> You should always try to install all of the bundles you intend to use, and
> then resolve as a single operation. If you do this then the framework will
> choose the most appropriate wiring, and your hypothetical scenario with
> Blueprint events should not occur.
>
> Regards
> Neil
>
>   Balázs Zsoldos <[email protected]>
>  8 May 2012 12:31
> Hi,
>
> thank you for the very fast response. I would like to make things a bit
> more clear. I would like to create separate jars that contains only the
> relevant packages (e.g. osgi-jdbc.jar, osgi-blueprint.jar, ...)
>
> We have a public maven repository where I would like to upload these jars.
> Do you have any restriction or recommendation concerning to the maven
> groupId:artifactId:version naming? The best would be
> org.osgi:osgi-blueprint:4.2.0 but if you prefer I can think in other grouId
> first not to occupy the standard one.
>
> Regards,
> Balazs Zsoldos
> Software Architect
> Mobile: +36-70/594-92-34
>
> Everit Kft.
> https://www.everit.biz
>
>
>
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>   Holger Hoffstätte <[email protected]>
>  8 May 2012 11:48
>
> AFAIK this is "historical" (always a nice excuse :) because the APIs
> are/were always released together for & with a core framework release.
> Other than that there is IMHO no practical reason or benefit, but - as
> your posting explains - quite a few downsides. It would be significantly
> easier if all official service APIs were released as separate artifacts.
> They have clearly separated versions and requirements; except for the core
> framework there is IMHO no need for arbitrarily aggregated jars.
>
> just my 0.01€,
>
> -h
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>   Balázs Zsoldos <[email protected]>
>  8 May 2012 11:17
> Hi,
>
> I would have a couple of question about the cmpn and enterprise jars.
>
> Why are there two jars with almost the same content. I need for example
> the jdbc DataSourceFactory interface so I use the enterprise jar. However
> if I need something from the cmpn jar and I also use Blueprint I will meet
> the problem that there are two jars with the same package will exist. Now
> if:
>
>    - osgi enterprise starts
>    - blueprint container starts
>    - compendium starts
>    - a bundle that uses the BlueprintListener interface to catch
>    Blueprint events starts
>
> then the bundle will not catch the events as the bundle may use different
> interface than the blueprint container.
>
> Is there any practical reason for this or is there a jar that merges the
> two?
>
> Regards,
> Balazs Zsoldos
> Software Architect
> Mobile: +36-70/594-92-34
>
> Everit Kft.
> https://www.everit.biz
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