Since the actual article subject does not contain the term "terrorist-supporting organization", OSINT posts overwhelmingly use actual subject titles, you did not couch the accusation as an opinion and you are not a journalist, it is doubtful you would have any fair use or first amendment protection if CAIR sues for libel. You would have to prove in court that the CAIR ORGANIZATION itself, not just some members, supports terrorism. And, win or lose, lawyers cost MONEY. Fortunately, it is doubtful anyone sympathetic to CAIR reads OSINT posts. But the risk is there, and not necessary to take when you can say the exact same thing with relative safety in opinion comments. Having said all that, I am darn glad the case noted in the article was dismissed. And, in my opinion, CAIR supports islamists and should be investigated thoroughly.
Respectfully, David Bier --- In [email protected], "Bruce Tefft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Headline was not changed, in spite of the bogus comments of this > poster...the subject line of an email msg is the choice of the sender. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Bier > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [osint] Re: US terrorist-supporting organization CAIR loses law > suit > > Article Title: "Statement By Anti-CAIR's Andrew Whitehead Regarding > Dismissal of CAIR Libel Suit" instead of the BOGUS headline invented by the > poster to express his own opinion. CAIR appears to be just what the poster > said, but, IMHO, pointing that out should go in poster's signed COMMENTS. > > David Bier > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bruce Tefft" <btefft@> wrote: > > > > > > Statement By Anti-CAIR's Andrew Whitehead Regarding Dismissal of CAIR > > Libel Suit > > > > As you know, the Council on American-Islamic Relations filed a $1.35 > million > > libel suit against me because I made the following statements: > > > > > > > > * "Let there be no doubt that CAIR is a terrorist supporting front > > organization that is partially funded by terrorists, and that CAIR > > wishes nothing more than the > implementation of > > Sharia law in America." > > > > > > * CAIR is an "organization founded by Hamas supporters which seeks to > > overthrow Constitutional government in the United States and replace > > it with an Islamist > theocracy > > using our own > > Constitution as protection." > > > > * "ACAIR reminds our readers that CAIR was started by Hamas > members and > > is supported by terrorist > > supporting individuals, groups and countries." > > > > * "Why oppose CAIR? CAIR has proven links to, and was > founded by, > > Islamic terrorists. CAIR is not in the United States to promote the > > civil rights of Muslims. CAIR is here > to make > > radical Islam the dominant religion > > in the United States and convert our country into an Islamic > theocracy along > > the lines of Iran. In addition, > > CAIR has managed, through the adroit manipulation of the popular > media, to > > present itself as the 'moderate' > > face of Islam in the United States. CAIR succeeded to the point that > > the majority of its members are not aware that CAIR actively supports > > terrorists and terrorist supporting > groups and > > nations. In addition, CAIR receives > > direct funding from Islamic terrorists supporting countries." > > > > > > > > * "CAIR is a fundamentalist organization dedicated to the > overthrow of > > the United States Constitution > > and the installation of an Islamic theocracy in America." > > > > > > > > I am pleased to report the CAIR lawsuit is over, and has been > dismissed, as > > the parties have reached a mutually agreeable settlement. > > > > I want to thank my attorneys who worked hard on my defense, and all > of the > > others who have stood by me these past two years. > > > > The policies and procedures of Anti-CAIR (ACAIR) have not changed in > any way > > > > as a result of the CAIR lawsuit settlement. ACAIR, and ACAIR's > founder, > > Andrew Whitehead, will continue to work to expose and present to > interested > > parties > > any information regarding CAIR that they feel is of importance. > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > In Defense of the Constitution > > > > * * * * > > *U.S. Senator Richard Durbin: "[CAIR is] unusual in its extreme > rhetoric > > and its associations with groups that are suspect" > > > > *U.S. Senator Charles Schumer: "we know [CAIR] has ties to terrorism" > > > > > > <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=9981> From Sept. > > 2003 Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, > > > > <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=9981> > Technology and > > Homeland Security > > > > * * * * > > "Let there be no doubt that CAIR is a terrorist supporting front > > organization that is partially funded by terrorists, and that CAIR > > wishes nothing > more > > than the implementation of Sharia law in America." - Anti-CAIR > > <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=9981> > > > > > > * * * * > > <http://anti-cair-net.org/Response.html> Since its founding in > 1994, the > > Council on American-Islamic Relations and its employees have combined, > > conspired, and agreed with third parties, including, but not limited > to, the > > Islamic Association for Palestine (" > > <http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6215> > IAP"), > > the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (" > > <http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6181> > HLF"), > > the Global Relief Foundation (" > > <http://www.discoverthenetwork.com/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6355> > GRF"), > > and foreign nationals hostile to the interests of the United States, > > to provide material support to known terrorist organizations, to > advance the > > Hamas agenda, and to propagate radical Islam. The Council on > > American-Islamic Relations, and certain of its officers, directors, > > and employees, have acted in support of, and in furtherance of, this > conspiracy. > > > > > > -- Points to Ponder -- > > <http://anti-cair-net.org/Response.html> CAIR Employees And Officials > > Support Terror > > > > <http://anti-cair-net.org/Response.html> Senior CAIR > employee > > Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a "Ismail" Royer, pled guilty and was > sentenced to > > twenty years in prison for participating in a network of militant > jihadists > > centered in Northern Virginia. He admitted to aiding and abetting > > three persons who sought training in a terrorist camp in Pakistan for > > the > purpose > > of waging jihad against American troops in Afghanistan. Royer's > > illegal actions occurred while he was employed with CAIR. > > > > <http://anti-cair-net.org/Response.html> CAIR's Director > > of Community Relations, Bassem Khafagi , was arrested by the United > States due > > to his ties with a terror-financing front group. Khafagi pled guilty > > to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt. > > Khafagi's illegal actions occurred while he was employed by CAIR. > > > > On December 18, 2002, > <http://anti-cair-net.org/Response.html> > > Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas, a founder of > the Holy > > Land Foundation, and a brother-in-law of > > <https://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-kohlmann010203.asp> > Musa Abu > > Marzook , was arrested by the United States and charged with, among > other > > things, making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the > > property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy and money > > laundering. Ghassan Elashi committed his crimes while working at > CAIR, and > > was found Guilty. > > > > <http://anti-cair-net.org/Response.html> CAIR Board Member > > Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World > > Trade > Center > > bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an > Islamic > > caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam. > > > > <http://www.anti-cair-net.org/OneillVsCAIR.pdf> Rabih Hadid > > <http://www.anti-cair-net.org/OneillVsCAIR.pdf> served as a CAIR > > Fundraiser. Haddad was co-founder of the Global Relief Foundation > ("GRF"). > > GRF was designated by the US Treasury Department for financing the > Al Qaida > > and other terrorist organizations and its assets were frozen by the US > > Government on December 14, 2001. > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Accessed 22 Mar 2006, http://www.anti-cair-net.org/ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- > Want to discuss this topic? Head on over to our discussion list, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------------------- > Brooks Isoldi, editor > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.intellnet.org > > Post message: [email protected] > Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use > has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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