Whole argument is ridiculous.  Islam, as the direct, literal word of Allah,
is unchangeable and unreformable.  There are no moderate Muslims to ally
with.only Muslims and non-Muslims.

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1600/education-about-islam-animosity-toward-muslims.jpg> A FRIEND OF MINE
said it doesn't help us defeat Islamo-fascism (as he called it) to know more
about Islam. He feels that animosity toward Muslims is fueling a division
between Muslims and non-Muslims, and our best bet would be to side with
those Muslims who are against jihad.

Basically, he is saying that our educational efforts to make non-Muslims
aware of the teachings of Islam
<http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/08/what-are-important-elements-of-islami
c.html>  ultimately defeats our purposes by making "peaceful Muslims" side
with orthodox Muslims (politically active Muslims) because animosity towards
Muslims causes peaceful Muslims to take sides, and the side they will take
is the Muslim side. To summarize his point of view:

Non-Muslims who express their dislike of the hateful teachings of Islam will
cause peaceful Muslims, who also do not like those hateful teachings, to
side with Muslims who like the hateful teachings.


So therefore, if we don't know the purposes and methods - if we don't know
the ideology of the Islamo-fascists - we will be better at defeating them.

It sounds absurd, but he might be right. It is possible that animosity
toward Muslims will cause peaceful Muslims or "Muslims in name only" to side
with more politically-active, less peaceful, more orthodox Muslims. It's
possible.

Does that mean we should stop educating our fellow non-Muslims about the
doctrines of Islam? My friend says yes, we should stop. And what should we
do instead? His suggestion is to strengthen and support the Muslims working
toward peace. He thinks we should support Muslims who are actively working
to reform Islam. There aren't a lot of them. Most Muslims who are not
politically-active are not reformers; they are simply apathetic about Islam.
They were born Muslims so they consider themselves Muslims, but they don't
really care about following the teachings of Islam.

But there are a few Muslims who are working to reform Islam, to expunge it
of the intolerant, supremacist teachings in the Islamic doctrine, and my
friend's answer is to support those people.

There may be some validity to this point of view. But it is also true that
many Muslims that we would call "peaceful" still have a supremacist Islamic
political agenda, and they work to accomplish that agenda through more
peaceful means (and sometimes stealthy
<http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/06/classic-case-of-stealth-jihad.html>
means) and those who know nothing about Islamic doctrine can be easily taken
in by this kind of "peaceful" Muslim.

This means that by following my friend's suggestion, the ultimate agenda of
Islam's prime directive
<http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/08/islams-prime-directive.html>  would
be fulfilled - aided and abetted by non-Muslims working to stop Islam's
prime directive from being fulfilled.

This is yet another example of why an ignorance of the basic doctrines of
Islam is counterproductive to the ultimate goal of neutralizing the
politically-aggressive orthodox Muslims
<http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/07/orthodox-versus-heterodox-muslims.h
tml> .

One of the biggest problems with the whole idea of "supporting peaceful
Muslims" is that apathetic Muslims are apathetic. They are not active. They
are not politically assertive. They don't care about any of this. They just
want to go on living their lives. And the Muslims actively seeking to reform
Islam - to expunge the hateful, politically-aggressive, violent, intolerant
content of Islamic doctrine - are a very small percentage and have almost no
following in the Muslim world, regardless of how big their following is in
the non-Muslim world.

So the most popular and by far the most active Muslims are the orthodox
Muslims, the politically aggressive Muslims.

Apathetic Muslims, or Muslims-in-name-only
<http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/03/muslim-in-name-only.html> , will
never dominate no matter how much support and encouragement and money we
give them. They're just not interested enough.

This means that aggressive Muslims - politically-active Muslims, orthodox
Muslims - will only be stopped by non-Muslims educated in Islamic doctrine.
This education is the one thing that needs to be done
<http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/02/just-one-thing-education-about-islam.
html> . My friend's political idea sounds good on paper, but it only sounds
good to people who don't know anything about Islamic doctrine. And that's
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