It's language that fails us, but that said, it seems the more open we are to the "whole" of self, others, energy, ordinary, non-ordinary, coupled with our own "primary" knowing that that provides us as "creative" beings with "subjective aims unique to each of us alone AND connected to the whole we find meaning and purpose and fulfillment and in this we are guided by how that "feels." However, the Wholeness/Universe/God/Spirit/Energy/Becoming provides "infinite possibilities for this fulfillment, and maximum freedom limited only by the constraints of our particular coherence conditions - beingness/ species/form. Alfred North Whitehead said - there are no isolated facts. We are all connected and in that we impact one another in our individual and collective becomings. Whew that's a lot of words. Hope it makes sense. THanks for this discourse.
On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:26 AM, John Watkins wrote:

The universe is an infinitely diverse and complex place. It is "configured" in such a way that we can find in it any "guidance" we need, but I doubt that it is directly externally objectively giving guidance, except in the ways that we are ourselves the universe and thus can give ourselves guidance, or find guidance in the ways that we experience the universe. I suppose this is a difference in a spiritual/ontological stance? Maybe we are saying the same thing? I'm using a nondualist tantric view of the universe here.

John

On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:

The creator permeates all energy - when I sit in lodge
I experience guidance from the grandfathers, the sage,
the medicine, the songs, the drum, the universe - and
all is one.

Ordinary reality offers many gifts - it is the non ordinary reality
that tricks us - To each his or her own, and that is what makes
life so wonderful. Be well. j


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In a nondual view, all energy is spirit, and the universe bears paying attention to, but it will not offer guidance, only grace.

John

On Sep 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Sometimes there is energy that just explodes and other times the energy has a direction influenced by spirit - I prefer the latter.
Intention ask the universe for guidance -

juan



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There are lots of forms of "energy" that pass through the "membranes" of companies besides just money! People and their passions are one.

John

On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Skye Hirst wrote:

Thanks Arthur - reminds me of the thoughts of Arie deGeus in his book on "The Living Company" who studied what makes companies last beyond 40 years.

He makes an analogy between oxygen for living organisms and money for companies. "To support life, we need oxygen to breath; but breathing oxygen is not our purpose. Similarly to support continued operation, companies need to make money and profit; but that is not their purpose. When it is made their purpose they become money machines; rigid mechanisms unable to adapt and learn."


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