Hi Michael,
I hear you, saying:
"I've seen very loose corporate add-on events"
..and then I also hear you saying:
I've seen...very productive and long-lived action (spanning years and
continents) come from open public conferences.
I do not hear you saying this:
"I've seen very loose corporate add-on events generate very productive
and long-lived action spanning years"
I wonder if you are saying this.
Daniel
On 10/17/14 10:15 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
Not sure the differences you articulate have anything to do with
public and private, Daniel. It's about the different structures. I've
seen very loose corporate add-on events and very productive and
long-lived action (spanning years and continents) come from open
public conferences. So id say structure matters much more than setting.
On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList
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Greetings Christine,
Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience
whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,
industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!
As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about
those use cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can
ask some questions about OST for guilds & industry associations...
I see it like this:
(1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,
business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.
(2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference
that anyone can attend, if they pay the money...
* It is an event that has some Open Space of varying
quality, in 1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats.
* It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall.
If it has Proceedings at all, they are often late.
* "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of
the range.
My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds,
industry associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of
these two extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how
these events take on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the
very private, business-org-specific event. They might even
effectively BE private events. It's not like anyone with the fee
(if any) can just waltz into the meeting right?
And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events
aside, and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK?
And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very
huge differences between these two ways to use Open Space.
Like, the difference between Night and Day.
Here's one of those very striking differences: in
public-conference events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day
formats, getting good Proceedings is difficult. Or impossible. The
Proceedings are typically late and poorly formatted, or more
commonly: /non-existent./
Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task
of Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet.
They typically wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely
huge interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.
And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences.
And so I continue to assert that for public-conference events
where OST is a full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or
Unconference can and does get equivalent, similar, as-good results.
Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what
Open Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space
is optimized for enabling "development and transformation in
organizations. "
And those other two aren't.
Daniel
PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature
all-day Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this
is clearly the exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences
are concerned.
On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
Daniel and all,
In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
results as an in-organization OST. I’ve facilitated a number of
them that were sponsored by a group of organizations in the
community. For instance, Vibrant Phoenix
<http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very
productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of
large municipalities and several local businesses. One of the
business sponsors agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted
to take their “actionable ideas” to the next level. However,
there was no budget and no infrastructure to really keep folks
connected the the ideas they cared the most about.
This is where the public open spaces generally fall short.
Because the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of
these organizations, it is hoped that the participants will
self-organize going forward. With very few exceptions, this does
not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the work after the
OST is what is called for.
The Collective Impact
<http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work>
model
speaks to this. It’s nothing new, really, but does represent a
simple way to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining
collective action. I now include my version of this model when I
talk with potential sponsors to shine the light beyond the
meeting so that we can discuss their intentions for providing
backbone support for self-organized action going forward.
I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to
working with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first
small step in collaborative action. There is so much potential!
Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
Christine
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On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList
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Greetings To All,
I notice that there are many big differences between
public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
organizations.
Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making
stuff up...
...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these
differences as striking. Even disturbing.
And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition)
and I notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the
discussion is about a public event. Up to page 18 for example,
this implication is clear:
<THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
"To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the
sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore */it is
your decision as to whether or not to proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)
</THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor
role **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for
an OST event /inside an organization/. For the typical
public-conference event on the other hand, this seems to work
just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....
Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool
for creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations".
It is best suited for use in organizations.
It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference"
formats seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in
the public conference setting.
Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think
Barcamp or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being
effective in bringing about Development and Transformation in
Organizations the way Open Space can. Something about the Sponsor?
Daniel
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