Hi Michael,

I'm confused now, and so I believe I am about to learn something new here... I'll know by your answers to these questions:

What are the minimum essentials of Open Space structure? For example, are the following elements necessary at all?

1. Sponsor
2. Theme
3. Invitation in advance, referring to Theme
4. Opening Circle
5. Facilitator
6. Explanation of the 1Law/ 5Principles
7. Posters
8. Closing Circle
9. Timely Proceedings
10. Sponsor commitment to follow though on Proceedings


If these are not essential to structure, why not? If so, why so?

Thanks for your help! Very Eager to hear your (hopefully /detailed/) answers!

Daniel


On 10/17/14 1:27 PM, Michael Herman wrote:
No. I'm saying the setting, context, culture doesn't matter so much. The structure, setup and commitment matter. I'm saying don't assume that public gatherings aren't capable of having real impact. And of course corporate/organizational/private isn't any guarantee of impact and followthrough.Â

On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Michael,

    I hear you, saying:

    "I've seen very loose corporate add-on events"

    ..and then I also hear you saying:

    I've seen...very productive and long-lived action (spanning years
    and continents) come from open public conferences.

    I do not hear you saying this:

    "I've seen very loose corporate add-on events generate very
    productive and long-lived action spanning years"

    I wonder if you are saying this.

    Daniel

    On 10/17/14 10:15 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
    Not sure the differences you articulate have anything to do with
    public and private, Daniel. It's about the different
    structures.  I've seen very loose corporate add-on events and
    very productive and long-lived action (spanning years and
    continents) come from open public conferences. So id say
    structure matters much more than setting.Â


    On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList
    <[email protected]
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    wrote:

        Greetings Christine,

        Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no
        experience whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events
        arranged for guilds, industry-associations and the like. I'm
        clueless!

        As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity
        about those use cases. I do have some theories however, and I
        hope I can ask some questions about OST for guilds & industry
        associations...

        I see it like this:

        (1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very
        private, business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family
        system.

        (2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public
        conference that anyone can attend, if they pay the money...

              * It is an event that has some Open Space of varying
                quality, in 1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats.
              * It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not
                have Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on
                the wall. If it has Proceedings at all, they are
                often late.
              * "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end
                of the range.


        My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with
        guilds, industry associations and the like lie somewhere in
        the middle of these two extremes. And I can certainly imagine
        (theorize) how these events take on the look, feel, tone,
        temp and flavor of the very private, business-org-specific
        event. They might even effectively BE private events. It's
        not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into the
        meeting right?


        And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events
        aside, and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK?






        And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see
        very huge differences between these two ways to use Open Space.

        Like, the difference between Night and Day.


        Here's one of those very striking differences: in
        public-conference events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or
        full day formats, getting good Proceedings is difficult. Or
        impossible. The Proceedings are typically late and poorly
        formatted, or more commonly: /non-existent./

        Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the
        task of Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a
        magnet. They typically wave off any offers of help and take
        an absolutely huge interest in the Proceedings generation.
        They rivet on it.



        And this is just one example. There are many more BIG
        differences. And so I continue to assert that for
        public-conference events where OST is a full day or 1/2 day
        add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get
        equivalent, similar, as-good results.

        Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do
        what Open Space does for organizations. And that's because
        Open Space is optimized for enabling "development and
        transformation in organizations. "

        And those other two aren't.


        Daniel

        PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that
        feature all-day Open Space do a very good job with
        Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the exception, and not the
        rule where Agile conferences are concerned.




        On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
        Daniel and all,

        In my experience, public events have the same buzz and
        meaningful results as an in-organization OST.  I’ve
        facilitated a number of them that were sponsored by a group
        of organizations in the community.  For instance, Vibrant
        Phoenix <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was
        a very productive economic development OST, sponsored by two
        mayors of large municipalities and several local
        businesses.  One of the business sponsors agreed to be the
        contact for folks who wanted to take their “actionable
        ideas” to the next level.  However, there was no budget
        and no infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the
        ideas they cared the most about. Â

This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of
        these organizations, it is hoped that the participants will
        self-organize going forward.  With very few exceptions,
        this does not happen.  I believe that sponsorship for the
        work after the OST is what is called for.

        The Collective Impact
        
<http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work>Â
 model
        speaks to this.  It’s nothing new, really, but does
        represent a simple way to talk about the necessary
        conditions for sustaining collective action.  I now include
        my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors
        to shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss
        their intentions for providing backbone support for
        self-organized action going forward.

        I especially love public Open Space events and look forward
        to working with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the
        first small step in collaborative action.  There is so much
        potential!

        Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened
        desert,

        Christine

        Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
        Phoenix, AZ, USA • +1.480.759.0262
        www.innovationpartners.com <http://www.innovationpartners.com>Â

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        On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList
        <[email protected]> wrote:

        Greetings To All,

        I notice that there are many big differences between
        public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged
        for organizations.

        Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just
        making stuff up...

        ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these
        differences as striking. Even disturbing.



        And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd
        edition) and I notice that, in some spots, the implication
        is that the discussion is about a public event. Up to page
        18 for example, this implication is clear:


        <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>

        Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor

        "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be
        the sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore
        */it is your decision as to whether or not to
        proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)

        </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>



        My current belief is that having the same person in the
        Sponsor role **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very
        bad idea for an OST event /inside an organization/. For the
        typical public-conference event on the other hand, this
        seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or
        Unconference....


        Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential
        tool for creating "Development and Transformation in
        Organizations". It is best suited for use in organizations.

        It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or
        "Unconference" formats seem to get the same or as-good
        results as Open Space, in the public conference setting.

        Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't
        think Barcamp or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at
        being effective in bringing about Development and
        Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space can.
        Something about the Sponsor?

        Daniel


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