Laurel, I don't recall a discussion on the dilemma of certification. I do recall a discussion about standards of Open Space Technology, ethics and integrity (wholeness).
And now about a new Open Space Technology concept, your admission of "shameless plagarizing". In some professional circles, this would not be tolerated. I wonder if it is really what you might want pulled up out of the archives at some point in the future by someone who might send it elsewhere? I would like to clarify for the list and for the archives the topic of "givens" --your slides 64 and 65. You have provided here an excellent example of what I was raising in my concerns of a few weeks ago of standards, ethics, and integrity...Or the lack of. In about 1993 (I would have to look up the correspondence for the exact dates) I introduced the notion of the "givens" as a critical factor of Open Space Technology. In the early days of my contribution, Harrison debated and disagreed with me saying Open Space Technology was bounded by passion and responsibility. Eventually, "the givens" made it into OST training and practice. In my experience and knowledge, getting the theme and the "givens" right is critical in a Open Space Technology event that makes a difference in the organization over the long haul. If my contributions are to be( in your own words) "shamelessly plagarized", likely having been translated by Jimbo from our training together and then to you for further translation by you, I would appreciate accuracy. For the benefit of those who intend to use your slides in the hope of great outcomes, I submit to the list and archives (unfortunately I can't make this right to the many other hundreds who likely now have your Powerpoint presentation) that when we work with "givens", the "givens" that need to be determined are the following: 1. purpose of the meeting 2. direction of the meeting 3. laws of the land must be adhered to (which particular pieces of legislation?) 4. givens pertaining to structure (ie: it is a given that we have a structure, it is not a given that we retain this specific structure) 5. financial 6. process 7. what is to happen to the information from the meeting (ie: will it be on a website? will others beyond our organization see it?) 8. how the group will know what has happened in the future as a result of the meeting via communication or another meeting during which they are accountable to each other 9. handling of matters of confidentiality for competitive edge/intellectual property Every OST faciitator will do this all as he or she interprets and sees fit. However, when we train others, I believe it is essential that we go back to the roots. I acknowledge Harrison for his work and then very clearly note what my addition/or interpretation is so that people have a chance to make up their own minds about what is Open Space Technology and what is it not. Birgitt -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Doersam, Laurel Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 2:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Facilitator training Hi Leslie, Thanks for your kind comments. Harrison's posting that I mentioned was sent on Sept. 3/00. It's really well worth reading - it was in response to the discussion on the listserve about the dilemma of certification of OST facilitators. Some of these slides were pilfered from Jimbo's ppt presentation - most of the more pragmatic, nuts and bolts, explanatory ones (mine are the more "out there airy-fairy right brain" ones!!) Warmly, Laurel. -----Original Message----- From: Dagostino, Leslie (Leslie) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Facilitator training Laurel, What a cool story! If you really meant it, I'd love to see your power point presentation. I use OST in a corporate setting and continually seek to enhance my OST "marketing" materials. I think you were masterful in working with the facilitator team. So often, they can be the most difficult people to deal with! The self-discovery aspects of OST are so powerful. I am also not sure about "Harrison's wonderful listserve posting about convergence and how it depended on the group and the circumstances. ("Am I anti-convergence?. . . ")." Can you point me to it? I just got on the listserve. Congratulations on a wonderful training. Leslie D'Agostino 630-713-9858 - * * ========================================================== [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected] Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html =========================================================== [email protected] To subscribe, 1. Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/oslist 2. Sign up -- provide an email address, and choose a login ID and password 3. Click on "Subscribe" and follow the instructions To unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: 1. Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/oslist 2. Sign in and Proceed
