Hi Judy, Ive been reading the flow of messages pondering the notion of truth over the last day or so, then this morning when I was having my morning meditaion & prayer hour I read in 1 Peter 5 (I think it was) something that jumped off the page at me. It said something like'..truth is Spirit..' and I thought that had a very OS ring to it as it bounced around my inner being and continues to do so even as I send this reply. Cheers Trev -----Original Message----- From: Julie Smith [mailto:jsm...@mosquitonet.com] Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2001 05:39 To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Discussions of Truth
Judi, I feel my "yes" to your thoughts bubbling up, so here it comes..... YES! As I say that my heart expands into the open unknown. I find myself smiling for reasons I know not. Simply a natural response to a glimmer of truth? With heart overflowing, Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: Judi Richardson <richa...@akerley.nscc.ns.ca> To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:18 AM Subject: Discussions of Truth > Isn't it interesting, Julie, as you mention blame and judgement, that we seem to have difficulty speaking from a place of need rather than judgement? > > It is amazing how easily a world view .... or a notion ... or a way of being ... anchors itself into flesh and then creates the experience that we call living. I wonder sometimes if we all just told the truth as it moves up from the body and presses up against us to be revealed ... if we only said "yes" when "yes" is what we meant ... and "no" when we are unwilling or unable; if we asked for what we wanted -- and didn't wait until we were desperate -- and were honest about what we are willing to give -- would the flow of energy ever be impeded? > > Judi > > >>> jsm...@mosquitonet.com 08/29/01 13:29 PM >>> > Hmmmm...... I see what you mean, Judi and Harrison. There is that aspect of conflict that puts us in touch with ourselves. The internal struggle that accompanies external conflict can force us to explore our deeper truths and meanings in life. That exploration can result in important learning and growth. > > And then there is that aspect of conflict that blames and judges the other. It is the healing of this aspect, I think, that I was trying to get at in my earlier post. This is the healing that allows us to have a shared truth with another rather than a solo truth that excludes the other. That shared truth sometimes opens us to the possibility of recognizing our connection, our oneness. > > I love the four laws of Spirit that Birgitt shared. > > Thank you, everyone, for such thoughtful conversation. > > Julie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harrison Owen > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:23 AM > Subject: Re: AW: Central Asia > > > At 11:40 AM 8/29/2001 -0300, you wrote: > > Hi all, > > A very rich exchange, indeed. Intriguing to hear a plethora of experience! > > Julie -- you wrote... > I spend some of my time mediating with people who are in conflict. It seems > to me that people in conflict are usually not in touch with truth. > > My experience has been that people in conflict -- including myself(!) are quite often beginning to touch their own truth when in conflict! > > Judi > > Personally I find that when folks are in conflict they are totally connected to the Truth -- their own. Not necessarily a bad thing if space can be provided so that some perspective may be achieved. And the good news about conflict is that somebody cares. No Conflict? Nobody cares! but you do need some space to move about in. which is why, I guess, we do what we do. > > ho > > > > Harrison Owen > 7808 River Falls Drive > Potomac, MD 20854 USA > phone 301-469-9269 > fax 301-983-9314 > Summer Phone 207-763-3261 > Summer Address > 189 Beaucaire Ave. > Camden, ME 04843 > Personal website www.mindspring.com/~owenhh > Open Space Institute website www.openspaceworld.org > Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
