Yes, they are and in my frame of reference they are doing the best they know how to do given the circumstances of their faiths/belief systems/conditioning.
Toni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Artur Ferreira da Silva" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: Re: A Partial Diary of the Collective Buddha > At 08:29 07-05-2002 -0800, Julie Smith wrote: > > >I don't know what "non-manicheist Christian" means. I guess I have > >something new to learn today. > > In Manicheanism the world is divided in good and bad or even in good and > evil - god and evil persons, good and evil peoples, good and evil nations, > etc. The ones that don't think like me or don't practice my faith > are...evil. The other characteristic is that the "goods" are good in > everything (even when they do evil things, like bombing the others > countries) and the "bads" are bad in everything (even when they do or say > good things). > > In "manicheist Christianity" the other (evil) can be, depending on the > moment, people from Islam, the atheists, the Judaists, the communists, etc. > > The French epistemologist Bachelard wrote many years ago that science > needed to be "psycanalyzed", in the sense that many scientific concepts > (like work, power, etc) were still anthropomorphic and pre-scientific. (no, > Bachelard was NOT a marxist, neither a freudian - that would make him evil > to many manic heists...). > > Similarly I think that the acts of many "people of faith" should be > "psycanalysed" in the same sense - we would discover that a lot of evil is > normally covert by "faith" and "love" (and I have not wrote "men of faith" > to avoid that you could think that I was referring only to American > Catholic priests and bishops...). > > In your answer, dear Julie, there was something that confused me - your > endorsement of the phrase "Divine Operating Plan". Believe me: only in > capitalist America could such phrase have been invented... > > (Maybe the problem of the world, assuming that a God exists or ever existed > - which I doubt - is that the "Divine Strategic Plan" (which was good) has > been transformed in a bad "Tactic Plan" and in a worst "Operating Plan" by > Himself or by man and women that honestly thought (and still think) they > are following His plan. > > Being a convicted atheist, that once had a strong Christian education, > there is something I would like to say to politics everywhere and to many > other people, including in this list - please, when you want to talk about > Him, please consider thoroughly if you are not using His name in vain. > > That's why I prefer to ear about the Taoist tradition or even the Buddhist > tradition - no God is present in the words that may or not be present in > the actions. After all, Sharon and Bush are men of faith, aren't they? > Aren't they? > > Abracos > > Artur > > PS: it's interesting that your adress is @mosquitonet. Do you know waht is > a "mosquito" in Portuguese? > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
