Chris, Chris, Nicolai...

Well, you've flushed out this lurker anyway - although I like Lisa's(?) 
'witness' better.

In terms of measurement and quantifiable vs. qualifiable(?), much work has been 
happening here in Northern Ireland in recent times to find better ways for 
funders of community development work to show benefits of community development 
projects in terms of outcomes rather than the traditional 'bums on seats' 
output measurements.  This work has also engaged with relevant research and 
development into the notion of social capital in England and I think in the US.

Perhaps you might be interested in looking at the following website which 
outlines a set of indicators which can be used to demonstrate the real benefits 
to communities of building capacity and supporting them to engage in effective 
ways with other bodies. http://www.ceni.org/inf_screportfull.htm

We might not want to measure things but often people and organisations who give 
financial support to the community and to more participative processes like to 
have some way of demonstrating clear benefits arising from their support. At 
least in this country some of them are moving towards evaluation which tells a 
meaningful story for both them and the community.

I hope you will find this of interest.  Apologies if this is a little garbled - 
I'm trying to give up smoking and have simply replaced it with extra caffeine 
(perhaps not the best approach!)

Julie Stuart



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