Dear ho, if you still have problems figuring out swamp-life to read Pogo. mmp
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:19:17 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote: >Wonderful to see you back online, Peggy -- and to know that the Sun actually >shines in Seattle. As for your discussion on COSMOS etc -- I think we need >more SWAMPS. Swamps (those grungy, smelly places where turtles hang out) are >always getting a bad rap. But they really are wonderful. Life begins there >for lots of critters, and the forms are always emergent and new. Of course >it is sort of a mess, but that seems to be what life is all about -- a good >mess. And when we finally get it all straightened out -- well I think it is >over. So here's to Swamps and messes. And to you too Peggy. And you can make >whatever you like out of that sequence -- swamp, mess, Peggy. . . . > >ho > >Harrison Owen >7808 River Falls Drive >Potomac, Maryland 20845 >Phone 301-365-2093 > >Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com >Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org >Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm >[email protected] >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: >http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peggy >Holman >Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:03 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example > >Ah, Michael, you caught me. I used the broad term (CAS) when really meaning >that elusive subset sometimes called the conscious self-organizing system, >sometimes named as an open space organization. What I mean by these terms >remains a challenge for me to describe. My latest attempt is organizations >that aspire to operate with ever increasing capacity for emergent leadership >and form. What to call it? How about COSMOS for Consciously Opening >Space - More - OrganizationS. How's that for including the whole of it? > > >> Another thing that puzzles me: What exactly was the decision/action >> that Michael H took? > >Sorry I didn't explicitly name what I saw as Michael's decision. It was >actually just a query he made that caused our listserv hosts to flip a >switch making the archives available without registering for the list. > > >The name aside, my reflections still stand. I experience something tangibly >different about communities and organizations where the mix of rigidity and >fluidity in leadership and form is heavily on the fluid end of the spectrum >such that roles and structure are more likely to emerge based on passion and >responsibility. > > >>From Seattle, where the sun is actually shining two days in a row, >Peggy > >_______________________________ >Peggy Holman >The Open Circle Company >15347 SE 49th Place >Bellevue, WA 98006 >425.746.6274 >www.opencirclecompany.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pannwitz, Michael M" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:29 PM >Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example > > >> Dear Peggy, >> and here I thought all systems and organizations (traditional or >> whatever) are complex adaptive systems? >> Also, I had the hunch from my long life in a "traditional" >> organization (and that enforces my question on all systems being CAS) >> that things there often appeared to happen regardless, in spite of , >> etc. what decisions were being taken at the "top". In fact, if those >> decisions from the "top" would really have had the impact imagined, >> the organization would long have gone out of busisness. >> Another thing that puzzles me: What exactly was the decision/action >> that Michael H took? >> Greetings from Berlin >> mmp >> >> >> * >> ========================================================== >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------ >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of [email protected], >> Visit: >> >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > >* >* >========================================================== >[email protected] >------------------------------ >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >view the archives of [email protected], >Visit: > >http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > >* >* >========================================================== >[email protected] >------------------------------ >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >view the archives of [email protected], >Visit: > >http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html Michael M Pannwitz boscop Draisweg 1 12209 Berlin, Germany FON +49 - 30-772 8000 FAX +49 - 30-773 92 464 www.michaelmpannwitz.de www.openspace-landschaft.de An der E-Gruppe "openspacedeutsch" für deutschsprechende open space-PraktikerInnen interessiert? 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