Hi: I will have a lot of work to do the rest of this sunny Sunday and, unfortunately, also during all the week. Probably I will only be able to see your answers next Saturday. But, before leaving, let me add some more comments about the principles and how they apply IMO to an OST meeting and to life itself. I will change the order of the principles
--- Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > Whenever it starts is the right time. > When it is over, it is over - but it ain't over yet In a meeting this principles about time state the obvious - what always happens. The reason to clarify them is to make people more comfortable with what would happen anyhow. More generally, they state that everything has a beginning and an end. This applies to everything under the Sun (and above), including life. To repeat this is a truism - but it doesn't bothers me. > Whoever comes is the right people > Whatever happens is the only thing that could have In the context of an OST meeting these are NOT "principles", IMHO. They are "results". If a good theme is selected, if a correct invitation is written (if it is really an invitation and not an obligation to attend, covered by the word "invitation"), if enough diversity is obtained, and if the law of two feet is applied THEN this "principles" seem to apply. If one or some of those conditions don't apply the the "principle" will not normally show up. (The point about learning something new, the point about conversions, metanoias, shifts of mind, scientific or methodological revolutions, is that what one previously believes disallow us to see the new concept. One must make an effort to UNLEARN what was a good explanation before. One must be able to do a very difficult thing indeed: to make an "What if" reasoning - let's admit, for a minute, that this crazy idea is correct. If it is, what are the consequences? How many of you are able to do that? How many will prefer NOT to think about the possibility and cover it with silence or with some questions "just for fun"? After doing that, one may conclude: yes, this may be a possibility of a different way of looking to the same reality - or, NO, this is silly! After making the attempt, one may conclude - not before. Let's continue...) If my argument has some credibility, then one must ask if those two principles (that even in an OST meeting are only true IF a lot of preconditions are satisfied) do apply to life and society in general or not? And, if yes, in what conditions do they apply? I could give you my (provisional) answers to those questions, but I think it is more interesting to give you all one week to think about the questions... Best regards, from sunny Lisbon (Lisboa, indeed), in the extreme West of "old Europe" Artur __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
