Harrison and Artur,

I agree with Artur when he says   "the love for humanity should be the only 
thing to refer on that matter "

According to me doing something for "the love of humanity" or for "the love of 
Allah" or " for the love of christ" 
"to serve humans" or "to serve religion" have completely different motivations.

I, for exemple, would like to know why someone is helping me.....is it to serve 
allah, mohamed, christ or is it simply because
i need help...that doesn't mean that i don't accept his/her help...i just would 
like the reason to be clear..(if possible).....

Again there is a huge difference for me between going and asking young people 
to help Africa because people there have the right
to live in good conditions and with peace (for such a simple reason like 
that).....or asking them do that for the love of christ.
Because, each case will create different vision in the minds of young people. 

For me "why" is a very important question to answer...or at least to look for 
an answer.... even more important than "what"

Moreover, i really wish that we (humanity) come to a point where the well being 
of humanity comes first before anything 
(allah, god, christ, mohamed etc...).....this is my personal opinion.         

Funda

  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Artur Silva 
  To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu 
  Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central Africa


  Funda and Harrison:

  Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote: 
    Funda -- since the organizations involved are Christian, I would guess that
    something about the Love of Christ might show up -- but I think you could
    substitute the Love of Allah and arrive at the same place. Actually I think
    the love humanity would do just as well.


  This is very interesting. American's are so imersed in the American culture 
(and that is quite normal I must say) that they: (1) don't even see any more 
the culture that is arround them; (2) don't even undrestood that things they 
take for granted can be offensive to other people(s)..

  In this case, Funda was uppset with the reference to Christ. Myself being 
from "old Europe" have been educated in a culture where religion MUST be 
separated from the State, from Science and from all intelectual discussions - 
except theological ones. This is not only because I am an atheist; my catholic 
education told me to "never use the name of God in vain", and to not use Him to 
support my ambitions, opinions or prejudices.

  So, Harrison, it is not that "Actually I think the love for humanity would do 
just as well". It is that "the love for humanity should be the only thing to 
refer" on that matter.

  Artur



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