In open space, each person is free to follow what has heart and meaning for them and there are no hard and fast rules about when and where a person's religious or spiritual beliefs may be brought up. An affiliation with a specific religion is much more than 'religion': it is one's identity, a reflection of culture, a shorthand for values, a kind of vocabulary.
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:38:55 -0800, Therese Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Being a Contrarian myself as well as a bit aggressively non-Christian, > I have to say that I feel a tiny bit bruised by this thread. A simple > statement of fact, as in "this organization serves Jesus Christ" is > not a public discussion of religion in a public space devoted to > 'other subjects'. I feel a bit opressed by what feels to me like your > aggression Artur. You, Artur, are certainly free to believe in a > zealous, rigorous separation of all things religious from everything > intellectually important but here in open space, I prefer to believe > that the spiritual realm of life cannot be separateed from any > intellectually important discussion about anything. > > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:08:16 -0500, Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Being a Contrarian, I am with Funda! > > > > Harrison > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > Potomac, Maryland 20845 > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > > > Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com > > Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org > > Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Funda Oral > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:19 AM > > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > Subject: Re: Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central Africa > > > > Peggy, > > Thank you very much, i will read the report. > > > > Artur, > > > > I am still laughing at your below explanation; > > > > "reference to religious matters in public spaces devoted to other subjects > > or to support political, ideological or professional options will be > > considered so abnormal as if someone discusses, say, one's private sexual > > life in public... " > > > > or maybe it can be the contrary... > > > > "reference to religious matters and reference to sexual life would be > > completely normal and polite everywhere...at every discussions" > > > > it's also cold and rainy here. > > Funda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peggy Holman" <pe...@opencirclecompany.com> > > To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:58 PM > > Subject: Re: Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central Africa > > > > > Funda, > > > > > > I can't answer your question directly because I don't know. They > > certainly > > > promote peace. Beyond that, the best I can do is send Mike Seymour's trip > > > report from his visit to Burundi. (below) > > > > > > I'm glad you found the ideas of value. > > > > > > from cold, rainy Seattle, > > > Peggy > > > > > > August 28, 2004 > > > > > > > > > Mike Seymour's Report on Trip to Bujumbura, Burundi August 12-24, 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just back from a life-changing journey to Burundi, Central Africa, > > where > > > I spent the last two weeks working with Prosper Ndabishuriye (who many of > > > you met at the Practice of Peace Open Space Conference here on Whidbey > > > Island last November). His organization (Youth in Reconstruction of a > > World > > > in Destruction) is involved in peace-building through building homes for > > > refugees, peace conferences and leadership development. As this note is > > > fairly long, read it when you have some leisure time if you are busy now. > > > In a few days I'll send you a link to pictures from the trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > First Impressions > > > > > > > > > Having been in other high-poverty places-like India and Korea 40 years > > ago-I > > > was less shocked than I might have been at seeing dilapidated buildings > > that > > > haven't seen paint since the Colonial era, endless roads with potholes or > > no > > > surface except rocks, streams of people walking along the sides of the > > road > > > (or a jitney bikes)-there being few cars outside of the capital city of > > > Bujumbura. Homes are modest mud brick dwellings, perhaps 400-600 square > > > feet in size, for the most part. The usual litter of paper and plastic can > > > be seen most everywhere, and in some areas (like the Buiza district in > > > Bujumbura City) is really bad-- poor air quality because everyone cooks > > with > > > wood or coal. The first thing I notice is I'm automatically taking shorter > > > breaths-as if that could keep the particulates out of my lungs. But the > > air > > > quality improves the next day as the weather is drier. In fact, I arrive > > on > > > the only rainy day they've had in months that summer-a fact not unnoticed > > by > > > Prosper who says there is a Burundian tradition that the one who comes > > with > > > the rain brings blessing. (The good omen proved true, for me as much as > > > anyone). Quickly, I got used to the "poverty." There was something that > > > seemed normal to me about it which I can't quite explain now that I'm back > > > here on Whidbey amidst relative wealth. Burundi, mind you, is the third > > > poorest country in the world out of 177 countries listed in the UN-and the > > > per capita income is something like $100 per year. I tried to imagine if > > I > > > listed all these 177 countries on a text document, on what page would > > > Burundi appear-somewhere at the end of page four, I think. This kind of > > math > > > is hard to fathom-and what's amazing is to see so many people not only > > > alive, but also thriving and smiling. One wonders how much of a mythology > > > we've built up in the west about what is a minimal, necessary life > > style!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > The military is everywhere. In developed countries, we're not used to > > > seeing so many soldiers in uniform-many with automatic weapons-signs of > > > continued insecurity due to the years of Hutu-Tutsi ethnic conflict which > > > has claimed over 600,000 lives and countless displaced families. As if to > > > ensure we didn't forget the kind of environment our peace efforts are > > > working in, several days after I arrived the rebel Hutu faction (some > > 25,000 > > > strong which are all around the capital city region) attacked a camp of > > > Congolese Tutsi refugees in Gatumba near the Congo border that was being > > > guarded by Burundian government soldiers. Over 160 refugees, including > > > soldiers, were killed. (If you want more on this go to: > > > http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0408/S00151.htm.) The day I left, a > > > large Thai airliner came in with a contingent of fresh, Thai UN troops-- > > and > > > there is lots of concern for the possibility of an escalation of tensions > > > and mutual reprisals on both sides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Work-the inner part > > > > > > > > > > > > The work is always both inner and outer-interlocking universes turning in > > > tandem with one another, so I cannot understand the outer journey apart > > from > > > the inner one, both for myself, Prosper and the many people who shared in > > > this by either being in Burundi at the time or by being there virtually in > > > prayer and spirit-as many of you were-and we thank you for your presence. > > > Very simply, for me another window in my personal journey opened quite > > > suddenly and wonderfully as I realized by day 2 or 3 that indeed my heart > > > had been mysteriously knit to the Burundian people and that I was being > > > called to step outside the box, beyond personal comfort zone and exercise > > > greater faith and play on a bigger field of work than I had thought of. > > I've > > > said so many times that my life is something that happened on the way to > > > someplace else. In the case of Burundi, I NEVER in my wildest imagination > > > could have cooked up being involved in Africa, going to what the State > > > Department calls a high-risk area and being involved with a Christian > > > evangelical organization (Prosper is an Evangelist)-having evolved from my > > > early Christian "born again" experience to a more contemplative form of > > > Christianity and then, quite naturally, onto to becoming a Buddhist in the > > > Vipassana tradition. But of course, I felt totally at home with all of > > > this-not the least of which was the spirit-rousing church service Prosper > > > brought me to that first Sunday at which I was asked to share my testimony > > > of how I came to Christ. So, there I was passionately telling this story > > > from 26 years ago-and Prosper keeps telling me throughout my stay that > > > people come up to him and say they think I must be an evangelist. And here > > I > > > had my heart set on becoming more monk-like and spending time in a > > monastery > > > in Burma. Go figure!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Throughout, this journey has been marked by these improbable turning > > points > > > at which I said "Yes" when the natural thing to do-what a big part of me > > > wanted to do-was to say "No." Perhaps this is how God works-we are led > > down > > > of path not completely of our own conscious choosing, only to see, once > > we've > > > gotten there, how perfect it is for us to be there. This started with the > > > Practice of peace Conference where it was the Bayview school students who > > > wanted to go to Africa (having met Prosper) and then they asked me if I > > > would go-and I couldn't easily say "No" as I had donated the money for > > them > > > to attend. Then the kids dropped out since Burundi is rated unsafe by the > > > State Dept., so I had to decide "Will I go," and again I said yes, after > > > asking Heather Ogilvy if she would go also. Then Prosper asks if I will > > be > > > a conduit for funds people want to donate-easy enough to do, only then > > > shortly after he sends me a letter saying he has appointed me the US > > > representative for JRMD. At this I really balked, as I am way too busy > > and > > > this entails, if I take it seriously, fund-raising I don't want to or feel > > > qualified to do. But after sitting on his e-mail for two days, I think of > > > the situation there and say to myself "I can't not do this." But all the > > > time I feel this pressure from the desperate situation in Burundi, and > > have > > > this sinking feeling (which I confirm once in Burundi) that there is in > > fact > > > nobody else but me which has volunteered to raise money for this > > > organization which is slated to build 800 homes for refugees. This is a > > bit > > > like being in a dream in which you're moving but not under your own > > > power-something else much bigger is drawing you along. This can feel a > > bit > > > scary, until I realized that I not only am I not in control, but don't > > have > > > to be-that there are forces (history, justice, God, people's prayers, the > > > vacuum of need which is Central Africa) which are shaping events way > > beyond > > > my ability or need to see the whole picture-only to play whatever small > > part > > > is mine to play--and be happy about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Outer Work-Opening a Space for Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I allowed myself more and more to be "given" to this work, it became > > > clear that Prosper and JRMD/YRWD (Youth in Reconstruction of a World in > > > Destruction) with myself and The Heritage Institute were forming a > > > partnership, and that my contribution of ideas, values, energy and > > presence > > > are in the long run as important as the funds we are able to bring in. > > The > > > great enthusiasm that my presence generated everywhere we went convinced > > my > > > once and for all it was right for me to have spent the $1,800 on airfare-a > > > sum I worried about as I felt it might be better to simply donate that > > > amount. You see, since the ethnic conflicts erupted in 1993, foreigners > > > simply don't make many visits to Burundi, except in some kind of official > > > capacity like the UN (which has a big presence and a 5000 man > > peace-keeping > > > force) or the foreign embassy people. Otherwise, the outside world is > > > absent, and there can be this sense of hopelessness, of nobody in the > > larger > > > world noticing or caring much. So, it is a REALLY BIG DEAL when a > > > foreigner, especially a person with white skin from America, comes to > > > Burundi. And this is magnified by the fact that people in Burundi realize > > > their government is a bit of a joke, strapped for cash and not able to > > > really help them; and the same goes for many foreign NGO's whose overhead > > > soaks up most of the budget so that precious little effects anything on > > the > > > ground. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, knowing all this, and driving around seeing soldiers in uniform > > > everywhere--many of whom wouldn't know if you asked what there mission > > is-I > > > realized the tremendous potential of an organization like Youth in > > > Reconstruction which--being a low-overhead, local, grass-roots > > organization > > > which counts on many committed volunteers-can get so much done. Case in > > > point: Habitat for Humanity came and left Burundi because of the political > > > situation-they managed to build only 30 homes and a much higher cost than > > > JRMD. JRMD has already built 1,500 since 1993. In the Carama district we > > > visited the next project where 800 homes will be built using the JRMD team > > > of volunteers and with help from many donors. We'll do this for half the > > > cost of a NW mini-mansion. A budget Prosper recently developed indicates > > > that these homes will only need an additional $315/home to be built, since > > > an agreement with a local government agency for refugee resettlement is > > > picking up the roofing costs which comes out to over 36% of the home cost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The JRMD/THI partnership involves an integrated effort for peace-building, > > > including home building for refugees; promoting awareness of Burundi and > > the > > > Central African situation through citizen diplomacy and public speaking; > > > peace-building through conferences and youth leadership development and > > > educational initiatives linking American and Burundian schools. Please > > > refer to the Appendix where the partnership agreement is spelled out in > > > detail. Here I'll relate what portions of it we actually did while I was > > in > > > Burundi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Carama District-Kinama Zone > > > Helping 800 Refugee Families to Rebuild their Homes > > > > > > > > > Prosper and I visited the Carama district at least 3-4 times during my two > > > week stay. Here, all the houses were completely destroyed in the fighting > > > over the past years-especially in 2000, and virtually nobody lives here at > > > this time. However, under the guidance and with hope from JRMD and their > > > field team of 21 volunteers, families who used to live in this area are > > > slowly being encouraged to return and rebuild their homes with JRMD help. > > > Orphans, widows and others with limited ability are encouraged to join > > > together and work as a community to help build homes. Rivulets bringing > > > water on site from a nearby water system enable earth to be softened to a > > > muddy texture, and packed into wooden forms then dried into bricks about > > 18 > > > inches in length by 8 inches on either side. The JRMD team uses string > > lines > > > and levels to get the bricks into even rows high enough for door and > > window > > > lintels, then another few layers of brick are put on before the roofing is > > > done-consisting of beams (local trees) and metals sheeting nailed in > > place. > > > This is sustainable development in action. The families themselves do the > > > work and all materials are local-even the trees for the beams could be > > > replanted-a project we are interested in. Homes here go up for between > > $600 > > > total. But, due to The Burundian government Commission on Refugee > > > Rehabiliatation donation of metal roofing, costs for the 800 homes for > > JRMD > > > will only be about $252,000, or about $315/home. Imagine being able to > > house > > > almost 5,000 people for less than the cost of an average Puget Sound > > > house!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I met many old men, old women and children working side by side. They > > were > > > tired...many hadn't eaten for a day or more, since they were not earning > > > money when they worked on their own homes. But I could clearly see the > > > happiness and glow in their faces. I have never failed to notice and be > > > stirred by the presence of spiritual wealth in the face of material > > poverty; > > > and then, coming back to the states as I have many times from overseas, > > > seeing spiritual poverty amidst material wealth. This spirit/matter > > > relationship is the subject of religious discourse. One man joked with > > > Prosper that he hadn't gone to the bathroom for two days, because he > > hadn't > > > eaten in that time. We all laughed. The following week, as the funds > > > Prosper and I were living from also dwindled, and we were taking less > > food, > > > I had a chance to say that I too had not gone to the bathroom in a while > > > since I had taken in so little food. In fact, I found myself wanting less > > > food...it just seemed natural to me to be in harmony with what the average > > > person experiences here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shortly after I arrived, Prosper ordered enough wooden beams for about 50 > > > houses, and this caused a big stir. We can now envision as many as 240+ > > > homes being able to have a roof on before the rainy season next year, with > > > funds we expect to raise as Prosper comes to the Northwest this October. > > > > > > > > > > > > Open Space Conference-Bujumbura > > > > > > > > > Prosper had mentioned wanting to hold an open space conference for youth > > > during my stay, but by the time I arrived we had only received only about > > > $250 toward the estimated $2,500 to put on a quality event-including food, > > > transportation funds (as many don't have even enough bus money), facility > > > rental, musicians, translators, photocopying etc. We were both in a > > buoyant > > > mood, sensing that the visit was going well and there was a lot of spirit > > > behind the work. So, I ventured an offer to put up $1000 for a more > > limited > > > event if no money came in. The next day Prosper told me that would not be > > > necessary as a person neither one of us knew had already e-mailed Prosper > > > the night before that she would donate $2,500 for the Open space event. We > > > want to express our gratitude to Ellie Kierson for her faith and > > generosity, > > > and knew beyond any doubt that higher powers were on our side in this > > > mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Open Space took place over Friday and Saturday morning, and we had a > > > truly wonderful, spirit-filled event with 71 people attending. Most were > > > students or young working people, including many from the JRMD field team, > > > JRMD staff and other volunteers. It was really a blessing that we had 2-3 > > > young people from the Congo and as many, also, from Kenya-several of whom > > > turned out to be very inspiring and promising leaders. > > > > > > > > > > > > During this two days, a model for peace-building clearly emerged which we > > > could train young people to do. There was a vision put forth to approach > > > the churches in Burundi as a resource for this kind of peace-building > > model, > > > as 86% of the country is Christian-most of that Catholic, with most of > > the > > > rest being protestant, evangelical. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a great advantage to being able to work at a deep spiritual level > > > and based on a common language and values when most of the people in the > > > room believe in the same things. And so, when we laid a foundation of > > > teaching about peace based on Christian precepts, using both biblical as > > > well as indigenous metaphors, a powerful common sacred ground emerged for > > > this work which brought everyone together. All our meetings were begun > > and > > > ended in prayer, music and dancing which brought such great joy to > > everyone. > > > It became to clear to me if leaders of any opposing forces would only > > gather > > > together in song, prayer and eating of food, that killing one another > > > afterward would be so much harder to do. This became clear to everyone > > > present-how simple peace can be when the heart is in the right place. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, many people continued to hang around for hours-relishing the > > > time together and not wanting to go home. We look forward to the next > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > AfricaAmericaExchange-Schools Project NW & Burundi > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever since The Heritage Institute launched its distance education program > > in > > > 1995, we have had a vision (expressed in our logo) of forming a global, > > > internet exchange connecting young people and their teachers from around > > the > > > world--each classroom working on projects of their own choosing that > > benefit > > > their communities. At last we are able to realize that vision with > > > AfricaAmericaExchange. Here six secondary schools from Bujumbura and six > > > schools from Washington state will all work on projects that will benefit > > > their own or the larger world community, and then they will communicate > > with > > > each other about their projects and progress using Yahoo Groups as a > > > discussion space, for posting files and pictures etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > We met with a group of 25 or so students and teachers for an afternoon > > > workshop and orientation and then had training sessions at the Tropicana > > > CyberCafe, as only one of the schools there had computers with an internet > > > connection. The schools represented are: Ceste School, Saint > > Esprit-Ceebu, > > > Lycee Kinama, Lycee du Lac, Lycee Municipal Ruziba, Lycee Municipal > > Rohero. > > > > > > > > > > > > The kids and teachers were all so excited to receive the internet training > > > as well as training in how to use the digital camera I brought which was > > > given to JRMD to be loaned out as each school needs. There were many > > > questions about how to choose a project which we answered as best we > > > could-saying basically that we did not have money to fund any project > > beyond > > > a small budget for internet fees and for student transportation > > to-and-from > > > the CyberCafe. Each school will survey its own community, doing an > > informal > > > needs assessment, and then determine where they can be effective. We gave > > > many examples of short-term projects (community-building workshops, > > > environmental clean-up, education about HIV/AIDS that bear no cost and can > > > do some good. > > > > > > > > > > > > As of now, Langley Middle School (Susie Richards) and Eagle Harbor High > > > School in Bainbridge Island are on board in the NW. I will find four more > > > schools before Prosper comes in October, and then he and I will visit each > > > school for an orientation session. > > > > > > > > > > > > The project begins formally on October 15 and lasts 5 months, through the > > > end of February, 2005. Already, the Burundian schools have signed up for > > > Yahoo e-mail accounts and have prepared a digital photo album for each > > > school. We are all excited about the possibilities that will emerge from > > > this first experiment which, if successful, can be offered to more > > schools. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opening a Space for Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > A partnership between > > > > > > Jeunesse en Reconstruction du Monde en Destruction (JRMD) > > > > > > Youth in Reconstruction of a World in Destruction (YRWD) in English and > > > > > > The Heritage Institute (THI), USA > > > > > > > > > > > > Prosper Ndabishuriye, General Coordinator of JRMD and Mike Seymour, > > > President of The Heritage Institute, USA (THI) are happy to announce the > > > formation of a partnership between their two organizations for the > > purposes > > > of opening a space for peace for the people of Burundi as well as those of > > > other Central African countries in the Great Lakes region who have > > suffered > > > through war and its tragic consequences. > > > > > > > > > > > > This dynamic partnership will enable many intergrated levels of > > > peace-building to occur for the people of Burundi and the region. This > > will > > > include refugee resettlement through home- building; promoting awareness > > and > > > compassion among Americans and Europeans of the situation and needs in > > > Central Africa through international citizen diplomacy and cross-cultural > > > dialogue; educating for peace through Burundi/America school partnerships, > > > conferences and literature that offer hope in teaching about the skills > > and > > > attitudes for peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > First, the JRMD/THI partnership will assist in the resettlement of > > refugees > > > displaced by over ten years of ethnic wars by helping them to build homes > > > for themselves. JRMD has successfully assisted in the building over 1,500 > > > homes since 1993 through a sustainable, grass-roots development model that > > > uses inexpensive local materials and the willing involvement of future > > > homeowners who, working together, find support and a new sense of > > community. > > > The JRMD/THI partnership will enable another 800 homes to be built in the > > > Carama district of Kinama zone in the capital city of Bujumbura. Since > > June > > > 2004, this latest initiative already has sufficient progress so that by > > > November, 2004 as many as 200+ homes will have walls and roof-enough for > > > families to begin moving in, even though the homes will not be fully > > > complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > Second, this partnership will build awareness and compassion for the needs > > > of Burundians and others in the region among people in America and Europe. > > > With the help of The Heritage Institute in the USA and others in Holland, > > > JRMD/THI will be able to speak before many business associations, chambers > > > of commerce, schools, churches and at the homes of enthusiastic > > supporters. > > > Video and other presentations of the suffering in Burundi, and how the > > > JRMD/THI partnership brings hope and homes to deserving people is expected > > > to touch many hearts-building a strong donor foundation to support the > > > partnership work. > > > > > > > > > > > > From this group of committed supporters will come a delegation of > > Americans > > > and Europeans who, in 2006 or 2007, will form a mission that comes to > > > Burundi to further advance the peace-building process. Under the name > > Global > > > Citizen Journey, as many as 25 people from the USA or Europe will journey > > to > > > Burundi to work along side equal numbers of Burundians to build homes, > > plant > > > trees and to also deepen their relationship through workshops and > > > conversations on peace-building themes. > > > > > > > > > > > > As part of this 2-3 week mission, the JRMD/THI partnership will extend an > > > invitation to the governments of Burundi and other countries in the Great > > > Lakes region to participate in a Pan-African conference on peace. > > > Government leaders, NGO's, the UN and many volunteers working at the grass > > > roots level will be invited to attend, share their successes and failures, > > > coordinate policies and explore how partnerships may enhance individual > > > organization's mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, and very important, the JRMD/THI partnership will promote the > > > development of leadership among youth in both in Africa as well as America > > > and Europe. This will be done through an educational initiative that > > > involves students and teachers in community improvement projects and > > > cross-cultural dialogue, using the Internet as the medium of > > communication. > > > Named the AfricaAmericaExchange, this initiative will begin for the first > > > time in Fall 2004 between four schools in Burundi and a comparable number > > in > > > the state of Washington in the USA. Each group of students and teachers > > will > > > discuss and decide on what kind of activity they will undertake under the > > > criteria that the project will "...make the world a better place." A sense > > > of global community will develop as students in the AfricaAmericaExchange > > > send emails to one another and post file and pictures of their work on a > > > specially selected Internet site. As stories are shared, cultural > > > understanding and friendships will grow. > > > > > > > > > > > > The JRMD/THI partnership is founded on the belief that peace starts from > > > within-that we must be peaceful within ourselves as a condition to make > > > peace between ourselves and others. This is seen as a work of > > relationship, > > > reconciliation and mutual grieving together for past losses to free the > > > heart from its burdens-relating deeply to ourselves and who we are, to > > > others in the human community, to earth and to spirit. Only as we know and > > > relate to our own hearts can we truly know and relate to others. As we > > thus > > > build community with one another we can then in peace engage in a most > > > important reconciliation of people with Earth our home, working to > > preserve > > > the health and integrity of the natural world on which we are all vitally > > > dependent. Through this process of relationship to self, community and > > > Earth, we may discover a heart and spirit common to all humanity, and thus > > > grow in our ability to celebrate the rich diversity of cultural and > > > religious expression which is our great human inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bujumbura, August 17, 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Seymour > > > Prosper Ndabishuriye > > > > > > > > > > > > Director of Heritage Institute, USA > > > General Coordinator > > > > > > > > > Jeunesse en Reconstruction > > > > > > > > > du Monde en Destruction > > > > > > > > > JRMD/YRWD > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Funda Oral" <fundao...@ttnet.net.tr> > > > To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:31 AM > > > Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central > > Africa > > > > > > > > > > Dear Peggy, > > > > > > > > I forwarded these two web sites to some friends to make them see how > > young > > > > people can be active because we were currently discussing about some > > > > similar > > > > projects. > > > > > > > > http://jrmd.org/. > > > > www.hol.edu/aax > > > > > > > > But they are asking if these organizations promote peace or do they aim > > to > > > > promote christ? > > > > or both? as we read following sentences on "jrmd" web page. > > > > > > > > " We made Christ known through His Love in Action" > > > > " The culture of Christ's Love in Action." > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Funda > > > > > > > > * > > > > * > > > > ========================================================== > > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > > > > > > > * > > > * > > > ========================================================== > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > ------------------------------ > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
