Yes, the folks in Moscow made their decision. . . . and I have heard lots and lots of conversation with open space facilitators from around the world (yes, some of these people actually talk to me on the phone, like, love and respect me) about that decision.
The folks in Moscow had every right to make the decision they made. And I, over here in California, have a right to think what I think, to want what I want, to say what I think and want, etc. That's all I was doing. Now that I have watched myself posted three reactive letters to Yana's violation of my privacy, I see that I am being very reactive this morning. I don't care deeply about the decision to hold OSonOS in Kiev this year. . . . but it really pisses me off that Yana stole my words and posted them. I don't care if the list knows what I think. . . . but I feel a little raped by Yana. On 4/10/07, TYASTO <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Yana and Ukraininan team, take it easy. A decision making procedure in Moscow was a long one and everybody could say what they wanted and vote as they wished. I wish you a success and lots of energy! Warm regards, Marina Tyasto -----Original Message----- *From:* Yana Demenko [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54 PM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* angry feedback Dear OS Community, WOSonOS hosting team have got a very interesting feedback from Tree Fitzpatrick. I'm not going to comment it but I feel responsibility to share this mail with all of you. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have ... Best regards, Yana Demenko [e-mail] [email protected] [post] p.o.box 4B, Kyiv-1, 01001, Ukraine [web] www.demenko.info [skype] yana_demenko Begin forwarded message: * * ** ------------------------------ *From:* Tree Fitzpatrick [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:21 AM *To:* GURT Resource Centre for NGO Development *Subject:* Re: Invitation to 15th Worldwide Open Space on Open Space I have absolutely no interest in attending the OSonOS in Kiev this year. I am writing to tell you why I am not interested. And I am writing to complain that you have sent me this invitation. Where did you get my email? You did not have my permission to use it. I was disappointed that people at OSonOS in Moscow hijacked this important international gathering of OS practitioners from around the world and insisted on taking the event to Kiev this year. The OSonOS gathering belongs to practitioners around the world and it has norms and traditions that you folks refused to honor when you decided to 'steal' the event to Kiev this year. A key tradition of OSonOS International has been to move around the world. I understand that one of your organizers was very aggressive in Moscow, insisting on forcing OSonOS to Kiev. This makes me angry and under no circumstances would I attend an event that was demanded like this: I feel like coming would be tantamount to giving in to a child after he had a tantrum. You folks in Kiev were free to steal the event. . . but you could never win my support of it. And, parenthetically, as it happens, Raffi did something similar at Halifax OSonOS in 2005. The group was leaning towards having OSonOS 2006 in Scotland and Raffi stood up and said "I don't care what you people want, there is going to be an international OSonOS in Moscow this year" and the Halifax group gave in to Raffi. I mention this because now I am wondering if the Slavic world is littered with bullies who think that imposing their will on people is good collaboration? I also wonder if whoever that guy was, it was someone from Kiev who was in Moscow at last year's conference, really gives a shit about the rest of the world of OS practitioners. I wonder if this guy realizes that senior OS practitioners all over the world have heard about this behavior. I venture to guess that you are going to have a very low turnout at this event. I suspect lots of people feel the way I do, that the conference was birthed in an atmosphere of coersion, which is NOT open space at all, is it? Please don't send me any more emails. I have reported you to my email provider as spam. -- Love rays, Tree Fitzpatrick http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/ . . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine, "I want you to be," without being able to give any particular reason for such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Arendt 1335 Montecito Ave Apt. 35 Mountain View, California 94043 (650) 967-9260 * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
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