On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Jack Martin Leith <j...@jackmartinleith.com> wrote:
> Hiya Harrison. > > Happy that you're not offended by our undertaking! > > Maybe it's different on your side of the pond, but Paul and I have both, > separately, noticed the worrying extent to which OS certainly has become a > dogma over here, sometimes along with the words "Harrison Owen" says. (I > must put my hand up to having done that many times.) We both feel that OS > has become somewhat arthritic, and overdue for a rethink. > Open Space Technology is what it is. Right? How can it become arthritic? I am challenged by your suggestion but I hope you don't perceive that I am challenging you. I am genuinely puzzled. I would welcome more of you thoughts, perhaps some examples of how OS is changing? How can OS 'become' anything? It is what it is. I am wondering if, when you suggest that it is due for a 'rethink', perhaps you are seeing something else, or striving to see something else. Perhaps you have a (inchoate?) yearning for, please forgive me, 'better' space at meetings. I don't have Harrison's depth of experience opening sepace, but I wholeheartedly agree with what he says about 'second generation open space'. When in doubt, open more space and if opening more space brings me to a place of doing nothing, well, for me, then I know I'm doing it right. > > What you say is perfectly true, and I agree wholeheartedly ... although > I'm personaly keen on conversation that precipitates action ... but all too > often it's very different on the ground. > > Big thanks for your support and encouragement. We'll keep you posted. > Steve the Doc has already signed up for the Skype option. > > Very best, > > Jack > > Jack Martin Leith > Bristol, United Kingdom > Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541) > Skype: jackmartinleith > Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325 > Facebook group on Open Space Technology: > www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743 > LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith > email: j...@jackmartinleith.com > www.jackmartinleith.com > > 2008/4/30 Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>: > > > Sounds like a marvelous under taking, but I am not sure about all this > > "Dogma" business. Dogma in my lexicon is a whole bunch of stuff that you > > have to do/believe. My experience with OST is that it is all about thinking > > of one more thing NOT to do – or believe. The end of the line, or indeed the > > next iteration, would involve doing nothing at all, and where "belief" > > translated into pure experience. You were just "there" in that present > > moment being fully what you (we) already were – full, conscious, passionate, > > responsible human beings. My experience with most of the 2nd Generation > > Open Spaces is that they seem to involve more and different doing and > > believing. To my eyes this seems to be going in the wrong direction. But > > what do I know? Have fun!! > > > > > > > > Harrison > > > > > > > > Harrison Owen > > > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > > > Potomac, Maryland 20854 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > > > Skype hhowen > > > > Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com > > > > Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org > > > > Personal website www.ho-image.com > > > > OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the > > archives Visit: > > www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html<http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html> > > > * * ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To > subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > -- Love rays, Tree Fitzpatrick http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/ . . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine, "I want you to be," without being able to give any particular reason for such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Arendt 1335 Montecito Ave Apt. 35 Mountain View, California 94043 (650) 967-9260 * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
